Talk:Safe listening

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@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Hi, I edited some following the move from main space to draft. The main argument was regarding notability and being undersourced, which I don't quite agree. Do you think that it would of for me to submit for review or should I do do more? Thanks! TMorata (talk) 15:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

@TMorata: The main issue is that most of the text isn't about Make Listening Safe as a program, but about safe listening in general. Most of the sources don't mention Make Listening Safe itself, so they don't count for notability for it as a program. If the article was entitled Safe listening, it should be notable as a topic rather than as a program. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 21:07, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Thanks. I will think of how to change it. TMorata (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

A bit of history on this article, request for input

I started a different article on a health campaign by the WHO, see Draft:Make Listening Safe. When I tried to published the issue of notoriety came up. A fellow Wikipedian suggested that i turn the article into an article on safe listening instead. I did and will submit for review. Suggestions for improvements would be wonderful. TMorata (talk) 19:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@TMorata: The reviewer rejected it because a lot of the text is copied or very similar to the sources (see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing), when they aren't public domain or under a proper Creative Commons license. See [1]. These paragraphs need to be rewritten before the article can go to mainspace. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 21:40, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Addressing issues of copyright

Review raised issues related to copyright. I was working with the authors of the papers and used text they provided me. I will work to correct the issues. I will move it to my sandbox. TMorata (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Rewritten

@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Please see a segment I added on Apple study and the one Christi added on personal interventions. Let me know if you think it is ok to move into main space. Thanks! TMorata (talk) 22:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 15:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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Man listening with headphones

• ... that there are tools and resources to help develop safe listening habits to prevent any risks to hearing (pictured)?
• ALT1:... that there are ways to create safe listening habits (pictured) to cut down the risk of hearing loss and tinnitus?
• ALT2:... that safe listening prevents risks to hearing from voluntary sound exposure (example pictured) rather than unwanted noise?

• Comment: May is Better hearing and speech month; it would be opportune to publish then.

Created by TMorata (talk) and John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk). Nominated by TMorata (talk) at 21:39, 8 April 2021 (UTC).

• New article, length is good, nominated on time. Per the Manual of Style (WP:MoS), it would be good if the external links in the body of the article were removed, or changed to actual citations. I think the second hook is best, but does it have a specific citation? Hooks are not usually summaries of the whole article, but pull out a particularly interesting part of it. The image is fine on copyright status. One last question - has a QPQ been done, or is it not needed? I.e. have you previously made 5 or fewer successful DYK nominations, or do you have more than that? Happy to take a look again after these issues have been addressed. Ganesha811 (talk) 00:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

• Hi @Ganesha811: and @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): Thanks for the help with this nomination. I changed the links into actual citations as suggested. A citation for the second hook would be PMID: 28615542, but I am not clear what to do with that. While this is my first DYK nomination, my collaborator User:John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) has done many many. I hope this helps. Ideally we would like this to go live in May. TMorata (talk) 20:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

• Great, the improvements to the article looks good. The citation looks suitable - normally it would be included when you nominate, but as this is your first DYK, it's not a big deal, as long as it checks out. While ALT1 looks ok as a hook, I wonder if you might want to find something more "hooky" - something that is more likely to grab the readers attention. Looking over the article, the data from the Apple Hearing Study stood out. Perhaps try creating a new hook from that, or another part of the article? Ganesha811 (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks I agree. It is a tough one. How about:

• ALT3:... that new apps and information can help with safe listening so you can enjoy your music AND protect your hearing (pictured)?
• ALT4:... that new apps and information can help safe listening to your music without the risk of hearing damage(pictured)?

TMorata (talk) 22:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• Let's go with Alt 2! I think it works best, but thank you for your new suggestions. Another volunteer will come along and close the discussion and hopefully move this to approved hooks shortly. Congrats. Ganesha811 (talk) 22:34, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• TMorata John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) Can you add a reference to the last sentence of the Entertainment venues section? I would then be happy to promote the nomination. SL93 (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• SL93 John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) Done (citation added) and THANKS for the careful review and support! TMorata (talk) 14:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Helped needed with Chinese Translation

A draft page in Chinese was created but the editor has not been able to publish it and I have not been able to help. It would be great if someone could help: User:GWei13/安全聆听 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书 (wikipedia.org) Thanks! TMorata (talk) 13:06, 2 July 2021 (UTC)