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Discussion about current descendants living in Sabalgarh

(@WikiDan61:)

Hi WikiDan61, I respect and very thankful to you that you've noticed and allowing me to explain it further.

Well, Yes, you may take it the handwritten notes, but if you ever belong to India or can ask any Indian history professor/researcher then you can understand that these are the documents which are being handwritten by our official family historian called "Jaga" (Jagas are a social caste-based group of people higher up in the Hindu hierarchy who held the traditional job of genealogists of primarily Rajput, Gurjar and Meenas[1] families mainly in Rajasthan, India and surrounding states. jagas are the caste which keep record of all generations of an individual family. there record was written in a big yellow book called (pothi). they comes in a category of brahmins.) please check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaga_(Rajasthan)

In India, every society & caste has its own "Jaga" to keep maintain the records of all generations from the last hundreds of year, Whenever a new marriage organized or a child born the "Jaga" visited the related cast/family to add the records of newly born child & newly married couple.

So, all the people in the town are known to the fact that Late. Mr. Sabal Singh Gurjar was my Great-Great Grandfather, and I especially captured those descendency written pages from Jaga pothi(genealogy book) to update the Wikipedia.

Please check a few posts from local researchers as they also used to visited Jaga and translated it to verify the facts. A beautiful video shoot done by my team for this historic contribution - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK11d4k9u5o

Check people also knew of our facts on social media: 1. Gwalior Gazetteer - https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.35648/page/n1 2. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2184029721719697&id=100003380708444 3. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2185968221525847&id=100003380708444 4. https://www.facebook.com/groups/671074102970491/permalink/2319687551442463/

I will get more details and verified content soon to help you and contribute my best efforts always!

You can reach me back anytime on below following---

Avtar Singh Gurjar, S/O Pratap Singh Gurjar Email: avtarsky9@gmail.com Phone: +91-7509112711 (WhatsApp also)

(@WikiDan61:)

Thank you very much of understanding the equivalent relationship of Indian Jaga[1] to your local baptistry records, Well, We have a few historians in our district who were researching on town Sabal Singh Gurjar and the Fort Of Sabalgarh, I will talk to them and would try to bring the published notes if its newer than 1908.

I am afraid, If I could not find something admissible as per the rules of Wikipedia then the important information of my clan & society would not be able to reach to my upcoming generation, caste, community.

Whereas, in the upcoming future and in the age of quantum computing, only digital records like Wikipedia will be the only valid resource for this valuable knowledge of clans, caste, community, descendants, etc. and any type of paper records may not be working or valid as valued resource of knowledge in the future.

So, kindly help me that how can I keep posting these important pieces of information about our history if not having proper admissible content as per this platform, can we go with any undertaking sign up? or non-disclosure-agreement, of confidentiality contract or anything else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AvtarSinghGurjar (talk • contribs)

@AvtarSinghGurjar: As mentioned in the discussion at my user talk page, the handwritten notes in your possession are not a reliable source for the information you are trying to add. I would further add that the claim that people who live in the town now are the descendants of the person who founded the town is not exactly encyclopedic. It is the kind of local interest information that is not applicable to a global encyclopedia. I understand your desire to document your own town's history and lore, and there are other places to do so. You can set up your own website or try one of Wikipedia's suggested alternative outlets. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)