Talk:Rosa Clemente
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Copy of Official Site
editThis article is a direct copy of Rosa Clemente's official website. If someone who knows more about politics than I do would like to fix it...<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 01:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Selected Articles Section
editEnigma deleted it, but I restored it. He said he fails to see the point of it, but I thought it served as a sampling of her work in activism and journalism. I'm not sure though. Any opinions or WP cites? -- Crnk Mnky 18:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Reporter expelled from public university ‘Black Lives’ event for not being of ‘African descent’
editSomeone has removed several times a reference of this incident which was largely commented on the internet. There is a video of what happened with the intervention of Rosa Clemente. Here one of the reporting link which was removed (Rosa Clemente is named in the paper) http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/23550 This should be reinstated, a complete removal seems to show a possible intent to hide a valuable and documented information.
- There is yet to be an actual source, not YouTube or some random college blog post about it. Get that source, cite it, and it's in. That's how it works. JesseRafe (talk) 04:09, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
According to the about, http://www.thecollegefix.com/about/ thecollegefix seems to have serious editorial supervision (but I guess you will only accept mainstream sources). The video on youtube is unedited. It happened: Rosa Clemente took part of this incident. She even assumes it on the video. Here is another paper on the incident: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/28/black-lives-matter-threatens-white-reporter-ive-got-800-black-people-behind-me/
- Breibart? Please. News sources. I'm not going to sully my internet connection by even clicking that link. Obviously if you only have two right-wing pandering sites for your claim, that it was not a notable enough incident to be included regardless of its veracity. That's how WP:NOTABLE and Undue Burden come into play. If every niche site published all sorts of trifling details, and each one was included the whole encyclopedia would be a swamp of minutia. JesseRafe (talk) 14:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
It's not my claim and no one is contesting it. There is an unedited video of it and I found 2 papers about it on google as you were asking for more. I was not under the impression that thecollegefix was right wing (but if you say so) as for breibart I just don't know it. It is just another report on this (heavily commented) incident for which Rosa Clemente takes credit (in the video). According to what is happening here/now, she seems to have a change of mind.
- Their masthead reads, "Original. Student reported. Your daily dose of Right-minded news and commentary from across the nation" (Emphasis originial) and their "serious editorial supervision" as you asserted earlier is not found anywhere other than the sentence "Our editors have decades of journalism experience, and their goal is to help students improve their writing and reporting skills, flesh out their budding resumes, and consider a career in the media." which is unsubstantiated and sounds more like fluffery with the aim of soliciting submissions than an actual proof of editorial supervision, whether serious or spurious. And Breibart is well-known for being a lampoon of even the right-wing, it's a home of fear-mongering and fact-hating, and is never taken seriously unless someone reports it third-party without checking its source.
- In short, these two "sources" are a perfect example of the aphorism, "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet". Paradoxically, so many people assume Wikipedia doesn't have such a standard, but we take verifiability and sourcing very seriously, hence why this item was removed. If the only three sources are YouTube, and two non-reputable "news" websites, then it is not includable. JesseRafe (talk) 21:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/28/blacklivesmatter-activists-bully-reporter-just-trying-to-do-his-job-video/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.240.66.100 (talk) 07:42, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2015/07/police_and_movement_for_black.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.240.66.164 (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)