Talk:Realignment plan

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Markus1423 in topic Verifiability

What? edit

Here is what is now the key sentence in this article:

According to this plan, if he was elected prime minister, Olmert would evacuate in four years most of Judea and Samaria during convergence to only big groups of settlements, according to the route of the West Bank barrier that was built by his predecessor, Ariel Sharon, or a similar route with national consent and international legitimization.

I don't know what this means. Can someone who knows about the "convergence plan" please rewrite this sentence so that those of us who don't know, can understand it? 6SJ7 04:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Let me add, I think I know what it probably means, but I don't want to assume anything. My conjecture is that the more descriptive term in American English would be "consolidation" rather than "convergence," in other words smaller settlements would be consolidated (or "merged") into the larger settlements in order to reduce both the number of settlements and the geographic dispersion of the settlements? Is that correct? 6SJ7 04:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Proposed edits edit

I think this article could use a bit of rewriting. I am posting it here first mainly because I want to make sure nobody objects with my description of the plan itself, but any other comments are welcome. I will wait 2 or 3 days before making the changes.

The realignment plan (Hebrew: תוכנית ההתכנסות) (originally known as the "convergence plan") is a plan that was formulated and introduced to the Israeli public by prime minister Ehud Olmert, in a number of interviews to the media during the election campaign for the 17th Knesset in 2006. Olmert stated that if he was elected prime minister, within four years he would remove Jewish settlements from most of Judea and Samaria and consolidate them into large groups of settlements near the 1967 border. The area of removal would correspond to the area east of the route of the West Bank barrier that was begun under his his predecessor, Ariel Sharon, or a similar route with national consent and international legitimization.

During the election campaign, Olmert stated that in pursuing a realignment of settlments, he was operating in Sharon's spirit, and that if Sharon had been able to continue carrying out the duties of his office, he would have acted in a similar way. Sharon was officially still prime minster during the campaign, but due to a stroke suffered in January 2006, had ceased to carry out the duties of his office and was not a candidate in the election. Olmert was acting prime minister during the campaign as well as the leader of the Kadima party. Since Sharon's major stroke, which followed a less serious stroke in November 2005, he has been kept under careful sedation and therefore remains in a coma. He officially left office in April, replaced by Olmert.

Oh. By the way, that was me, at 19:58 on June 16. So unless there has been a big uproar before then, I probably will make this change on Sunday night (U.S. Eastern time.) 6SJ7 05:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

This article needs more edit

This is a very important topic and thus demands lengthier treatment. Areas for expansion: which areas have been proposed for withdrawal? What are opinions (e.g. cabinet members) about whether IDF will stay? Would it be considered by the international community as an end to occupation? Especially useful is more about internal israeli politics, i.e. which parties are for/against.

Additionally, Olmert and others now say that realignment will not occur in the near future because of the lebanese war. The right now claims that it proves their point that disengagement increases terror. nadav 07:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Verifiability edit

I just added verifiability template to this article. Surprisingly for such an important topic, this article is extremely cursory and relies effectively on one source to describe the actual outline of the plan. Additionally, given that a substantial part of the article was written by a banned user (due principally to copy right issues, but also demonstrated bias), I think the claims need to be examined through a much more rigorous lens. In any case, I really try and stay away from Israel-Palestine stuff, but this article is not up to par at all. "I'd rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - George S. Patton :: markus1423 (talk) 04:38, 10 August 2020 (UTC)Reply