Talk:Ray Eames

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Separate article

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to Merge Ray Eames into Charles and Ray Eames... Gmcbjames (talk) 17:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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There is an existing article Charles and Ray Eames because they were notable together. I don't believe that Ray has notability outside that partnership as evidenced by the two sources written about the duo. Asit stands I doubt the article would survive at AfD. Flat Out let's discuss it 23:57, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

• I think Ray is notable, and I appreciate the concern expressed at Talk:Charles and Ray Eames that Ray's part in the partnership should not be understated. Nevertheless I agree that the long-standing joint article remains the best way to present our coverage of the two of them. So I support reinstating the redirect that existed until recently. I also note the recent comment at Talk:Charles and Ray Eames suggesting that the article could be clearer about their personal relationship, and I would also support appropriate edits to make sure Ray's part of the story is fully represented. --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Arxiloxos that's good feedback and happy to support that. Flat Out let's discuss it 03:58, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

• I think Ray is notable. I added some details of her work and life (mostly based on the book "woman in graphic design" (2012, see book list). The publication is based on a research project that was conducted by the editors (Prof. Gerad Breuer and Julia Meer) over a period of several years at the Bergische Universität Wuppertal. I added a sources list of several books about Ray and began to complete categories, and removed more "poetical telled" parts like "the ring-story". The Eames' design process was strongly collaborative, but it's possible to specify individual contributions. Charles was representing the office with clients and public, he often received credit for major part, but some photographic documentation and a few written records show Ray as equal partner. German Vitra Design Museum (Weil/Rhine) honoured her 100th birthday in special way by inaugurating Ray Eames-Strasse (Ray Eames-Street) at architectural parc of Vitra campus (Vitra AG Weil), see also: http://www.vitra.com/en-lp/magazine/details/vitra-inaugurates-ray-eames-strasse. --Naredu (talk) 22:27, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Naredu, good edits which are very much appreciated -- however see the merge proposal in the next section of this talk page, and feel free to add your comments to the merge proposal as to whether the article Ray Eames should or should not be merged into the article Charles and Ray Eames. The Ray Eames article is mostly duplicative of the Charles and Ray Eames article and what information isn't in Charles and Ray Eames could be easily incorporated. The consensus thus far has been to make the article Ray Eames into a redirect to the article Charles and Ray Eames, incorporate the Ray Eames article into the article Charles and Ray Eames and to continue to add information to the article Charles and Ray Eames so Ray's story is fully represented. There isn't a question as to Ray Eames notability, the question is whether having a duplicate article is in the best interest of the encyclopedia. Gmcbjames (talk) 17:27, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose that Ray Eames be merged into Charles and Ray Eames. I think that the content in the Ray Eames article can easily be explained in the context of Charles and Ray Eames, and the Charles and Ray Eames article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Ray Eames will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. See WP:MergeReason as there are several good reasons to merge. Discussion will be on this talk page. Gmcbjames (talk) 17:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

• Merge - In reviewing the history, Charles Eames and Ray Eames had separate articles. In December 2007, Charles Eames was copy merged into the Ray Eames article and renamed Charles and Ray Eames with some consensus. Charles Eames and Ray Eames were redirected to Charles and Ray Eames. In March 2015, Ray Eames was resurrected as an article. While bold to once again resurrect the Ray Eames article, there was consensus to merge in 2007. Since the Ray Eames article has been updated, these updates could be incorporated into the Charles and Ray Eames article. Gmcbjames (talk) 23:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Gmcbjames, i support an update of any new information and sources from this article into Charles and ray Eames, and to restore Ray Eames as a redirect. Flat Out let's discuss it 04:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Separated Ray biography from Charles and Ray Eames article

copied content from Charles and Ray Eames; see that page's history for attribution

Ray is notable as an artist in her own right. The Charles and Ray Eames article is now only about the collective work of the pair and their staff as The Eames Office. Nacentaeons (talk) 17:19, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Nacentaeons: You've ignored the previous consensus (see merge discussion immediately above), split up 1 decent article into 3, and utterly hollowed the joint article (see Step 6: cleanup), so that it takes readers more effort to get the same information. I don't care enough about the Eamses to revert your changes, but I disagree with them. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Is this article start-class article?

Hi, I'm new to editing and it seems like this article shouldn't be start class? -Thanks - liz Eneelyeneelyenee (talk) 21:02, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

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