Talk:Rambles in Germany and Italy

"a country which memory painted as paradise"

Although Percy Shelley and two of their children died there, Italy became for Mary Shelley "a country which memory painted as paradise", as Shelley scholar Betty T. Bennett puts it.

Bennett gives this as a quote by Shelley from the work. She gives the reference "8:77", which I presume is to the eight-volume edition of the works. qp10qp (talk) 11:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Oops - my note-taking system broke down! Fixed. Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 05:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

embarrassed

She was embarrassed by the entire incident: I think there are some good quotes in the letters to add colour to this. For example, she says somewhere something like "at my age, too". Ha ha. I love her in this incident: he clearly turned her right on, not to put too fine a point on it. The article mentions infatuation, but at first mention I think this might be made clearer. qp10qp (talk) 11:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you know offhand if any of the biographies have any of the juicy quotes? Awadewit (talk) 05:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

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Your usual stellar job. I've made some very minor tweaks to reduce some redundancy, etc. In the section on the nationalist revolutions and the Carbonari, etc., I tweaked a little more than elsewhere--some of the text was misleading. Of course, I haven't read your sources for those, but I have read others, so let me know if I've stated something in a way that your sources did not, and I'll find you a citation. It should be okay. Fascinating subject, btw, and well done! I'll let you have the honors of putting the article in the proper lists. Enjoy!Auntieruth55 (talk) 23:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I was trying to simplify the Italian situation too much, I think! Awadewit (talk) 03:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

additional comments

You might also think about distinguishing between "revolutionary" and "nationalist"... That distinction is not clear in this article, but if you're going to FA it probably should be. Also, the participation of the French in Italian national aspirations is complicated. I'd say that you should either simplify it a LOT more, or explain it a lot more. It might be possible to refer only to the guy as as Italian nationalist, and that she wanted to help him, and leave it at that. Depends on whether you think the history of risorgimento is important for your article. Auntieruth55 (talk) 17:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Quick comments

I've added some, but linking seems rather light, though Unification of Italy has 3. Catholicism linked way down, but C church in lede not. Ideally map should use Trier not Treves, & Kissingen should have its Bad. John Murray only published the guidebook surely? Blue Guides are their descendents. "the travel writer Samuel Rogers" is not a balanced description of him. There were a number of engvar points, & I'm sure there are more, as I haven't read it closely. I changed a "released", but (especially C19th) books are published, appear or come out. There's an "issued" in the first sentence & I think they do other things elsewhere. Johnbod (talk) 20:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for reading the article!

• I've added more links.
• A better map is currently in production, so we will make these changes to it.
• Not sure what you mean about Murray.
• Rogers is now described as "travel writer and poet".
• As for WP:ENGVAR, I can only ask for help, as I did on your talk page. Awadewit (talk) 17:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)