Talk:Prisons in California

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This article sounds more like opinion than fact. Very little sources are cited.

Wikiproject Prisons

If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation and improvement of articles regarding specific prisons, internment camps, and detention centers here. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Removed paragraph

Supposedly, prisons produce stability in the community. The four justifications for imprisonment are retribution, deterrence, rehabilitation, and incapacitation. Prisons justified by retribution aims to punish criminals for their bad acts, and is a moral/ethical judgment of the criminal that is independent of any benefit to society that prisons may bring. Deterrence claims that prisons prevent or reduce crime through creating fear in potential criminals of going to prison. Rehabilitation through prison would change the "bad" person into a "good" person, perhaps by giving them job training, exposing them to different moral systems like religion, or forcing them to consider the error of their ways. Incapacitation states that prisons reduce crime by preventing the criminal from performing future crimes in society while the prisoner is confined in prison.

This paragraph has no applicability to California prisons in particular. Moved to the talk page for further discussion. --Janus303 (talk) 05:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Removed graph

The graph showed that crime rates went down in inverse proportion to imprisonment rates. It was the equivalent of 'weasel language,' implying that imprisonment rates lower crime. Coincidence does not equal causation. I'll be watching this. Tapered (talk) 03:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Replaced. But the sentence "There are many explanations for the prison growth." is moronic. Everyone knows that it is only due to the war on drugs. Delphi234 (talk) 07:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Improvements and Current Information needed

The placement of the political opinion in the first paragraph marks this as a problem page. The mention of Governor Davis without mention of his successors over the next ten years seems to indicate a lack of current relevance in the article. Current issues in the subject matter are not covered (lawsuits and court orders regarding overcrowding, number of guards, emergence of privately operated facilities, increasing medical costs in prisons). The California Department of Corrections is barely mentioned and the controversial "blueprint" released April, 2012 postdates any edits on the page.

Gerald H -oldeststudent2004- (talk) 05:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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Getting some numbers right.

The current (21 Jan 2016) article reads: The system, like the state as a whole, lacks a racial/ethnic majority among the population, with Hispanic inmates making up approximately 57% of the population, African American and white inmates each representing about 27%, and other inmates representing 8% as of 2006. If Hispanic inmates make up approximately 57% of the population,then they are a majority; so the current statement is wrong. In addition 57% + 27% + 27% + 8% equals 119%; this again is simply impossible. Can someone please look the correct numbers up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homo Ex Machina (talk • contribs) 23:43, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

A figure under the "background" section of the article is not cited properly. The final sentence in the first paragraph for this section states there are "a number of facilities holding more than 200% of their design capacity." Looking at the first reference listed, none of the facilities appear to be holding at this capacity, but the closest number appears to be at 178.1% of holding capacity.Alnrmrz (talk) 03:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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majority?

"The system, like the state as a whole, lacks a racial/ethnic majority among the population, with Hispanic inmates making up approximately 87% of the population..."

What is this trying to say? 87% is a majority. Is there a typo in this? RJFJR (talk) 14:30, 29 May 2016 (UTC)