Talk:Postwar anti-Jewish violence in Slovakia

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Rytokarczuk in topic Addition to 'Kolbasov massacre' section.

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GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 12:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply


Opening statement edit

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Prose edit

  • Anti-regime forces included Slovak Army defectors, Agrarians, Communists, and Jews. Are there wikilinks that can be made with the presently unlinked text highlighted here?
    • Done
  • Altogether 69,000 of the 89,000 Jews in the Slovak State were murdered. Would read better as "were murdered in the Slovak State".
    • No, because most of them were murdered in Poland.
      • Ah. Can you clarify that, then?♠Vami_IV†♠ 11:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
        • Changed to "...were murdered during the Holocaust".
  • but confiscated movable property (such as furniture) which had been confiscated and sold to non-Jewish buyers. Delete "confiscated and", it is redundant.
    • Done
  • (In defense of such activities, SRP chairman Vojtech Winterstein said: "Jews have to make a living. They have no money, no opportunity to make money...")[19] Footnote this. It's the only not-footnote in the article.
    • Quote is translated to English and in an English language book. So I'm not sure why it should be footnoted per WP:Quotation?
  • Jews were also criticized for accepting help from American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee Missing a "the".
    • Done
  • Another source of antisemitism, and trigger for violence a trigger
    • No, "trigger" refers back to "another" and I don't think the suggested change reads better.
  • was false rumors and antisemitic conspiracy theories, were
    • No, in English a verb agrees with its subject (in this case, "Another source of antisemitism").
  • Unlike non-Jewish Germans and Hungarians, the majority of Jews in Slovakia who had German or Hungarian as their mother tongue were not expelled from the country and retained their Czechoslovak citizenship. This is a good candidate for a footnote. Elsewise, insert a link to the Expulsion of Germans from Czechoslovakia.
    • Already linked
  • Captain Palša Who?
    • First name and other details are not given in source
      • Hm. I suggest replacing his name with something like "a local Slovak man". He comes out of nowhere, and "captain" could be a police captain, or a military one, or maybe paramilitary. Best not to give him a second glance. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 11:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
        • But it is relevant that he is in a position of authority, not some random guy off the street.
          • Try to learn more about our friendly neighborhood antisemite, then. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 14:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
            • Nothing is forthcoming—the source cites an archival holding and no other secondary source seems to cover this incident. buidhe 10:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
              • So we come full circle. I again recommend something like "a Captain Palsa". –♠Vami_IV†♠ 11:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
                Changed to a man, identified in a police report as Captain Palša, buidhe 18:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Works for me. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:19, 11 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • the local District Committee The what?
    • As it sounds, an office of the local government. Linked cswiki article.
  • When the SRP came to investigate Ditto
    • Added explanation
  • incidents on UPA instead the UPA
    • done
  • passage of Restitution Act 128/1946, Ditto
    • done
  • Aryanized property and businesses to its original owners. businesses to their original owners
    • done
  • Slovak historian Michal Šmigeľ suggests that You can reduce Mr. Šmigeľ's name to just "Šmigeľ" now, he's been introduced now.
    • done
  • chapter of Union of Slovak Partisans You know the drill
    • done
  • formed a group of several partisans in order to fight the Jewish residents in the area Is "fight" the right word to use here? It makes it sound like the Jewish residents were forming gangs of their own.
    • changed to "attack"
  • police detained only a few people as a result of the attacks in Bratislava and elsewhere. Suggest shortening to just "the attacks".
  • Czechoslovak media either denied the riots occurred or that partisans had been involved in violence against Jews. Is this supposed to be only partisans?
    • No, the claim was that the partisans didn't do it, see Partisan Congress riots #Media coverage and #Reactions.
      • Ah, gotcha. In that case, can you add a comma before the "or"?
        • Done.
  • The police made up a list of politically unreliable "Suspects" or "person of interest" would be better here.
    • Changed to "politicially unreliable individuals."
      • I don't know if that's a legitimate police term or an invented term for beating around the bush. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 11:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The mayor of Topoľčany apologized for the rioting a year later. Did the sitting mayor in 2005 apologize or did the guy who was mayor in 1945 apologize in 2005?
    • The one who was mayor in 2005. I'm not sure how to clarify this, or whether it needs clarification.
  • Czech historian Jan Láníček states that situation in Slovakia Another one
    • Done
  • Women were prominent agitators in many of the anti-Jewish demonstrators
    • fixed
  • HSĽS I assume this is the ruling party in the Slovak State. Should be full-form and linked if so.
    • done
  • Move the picture in "Kolbasov massacre" to the right.
    • Not done, MOS recommends alternating images on left and right and it won't cause issues with section breaking.
      • MOS also says that unless the subject of the image is looking into the text, it should be on the right. Moving the image will also not result in sandwiching, and there aren't any images above "Kolbasov massacre".
        • That's just not how it works in practice. Most FA articles are staggered left and right, which looks much better.

GA progress edit

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Did you know nomination edit

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Improved to Good Article status by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 16:36, 11 April 2020 (UTC).Reply

  • Autonomous Slovak government did exist, see sources cited in article or here. It lost most of its power around the time of the 1948 coup. buidhe 00:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
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QPQ: Done.
Overall:   Only reviewing ALT2 which I think is the most interesting hook. Good to go. KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Addition to 'Kolbasov massacre' section. edit

I would like to propose an additional sentence at the end of the section.

Authors of the book 'Vampír z Biesčad v Uličskej doline' (published in 2019) identify perpetrators of Kolbasov massacre as members of UPA.

Footnote to this sentence: Bocan, Tokarczuk 2019

Source: Bocan, Jan and Tokarczuk, Wiesław (2019). "Vampír z Biesčad v Uličskej doline " (in Slovakian). Snina: Edicia Retrospektiva. ISBN: 978-80-972793-8-7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rytokarczuk (talkcontribs) 20:40, 23 June 2020 (UTC)Reply