Talk:Philippe Rogier

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Latest comment: 15 years ago by 87.67.130.67 in topic Date of birth

Composer project review

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I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. With modest effort, it might pass GA; A-class would require compiling the works list. See my detailed review on the comments page; questions or comments can be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 17:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Date of birth

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Rogier was born probably in Arras, babtisted march 12 1561 in Namur; (Source: Dictionnaire des compositeurs de Belgique from 2005) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.67.130.67 (talk) 12:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment

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==Composers Project Assessment of Philippe Rogier: 2008-12-2==

This is an assessment of article Philippe Rogier by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

  •   ok

===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  •   ok

===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  •   ok

===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

  •   No complete (known) works list.

===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

  •   ok

===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

  •   No images or sound.

===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

  •   Article is referenced; inline citations may be sufficient to argue past a GA reviewer.

===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

  •   ok

===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review===

  • Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE)

===Summary=== This article is a fairly informative summary of the man's life and music (as well as the history of his music after his death). We don't have his list of known works (and it sounds like we might even have be able to have a list of some of the lost works).

The article could use an image or two; appropriate scenes from Madrid or Lisbon might do. The article is well-enough cited that it might get past a reviewer; it should probably have an image first.

Article is B-class; with small work it can probably make GA; A-class would require the works list. Magic♪piano 17:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

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