Talk:Pay television

Requested move

Pay TV → Pay television – I think that this article should be moved to be consistent with the naming convention of not using abbreviations. In some cases, like when the abbreviation is much more common than the full name or the full name would make the name extremely long, exceptions are made. However, neither of those apply in this case. -- Kjkolb 09:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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• Support - I think. I'm not terribly familiar with the term, as it may be a common term. Part Deux 09:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
• Support; this seems to be a good idea. --NE2 16:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
• Support - It just has a better ring to it. Jimp 00:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion is to move this article to either premium television or premium channel. Just my Ameri-centric perspective. Autopilots 09:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

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Pay TV and Premium TV are very different and should NOT be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.213.74.139 (talk) 16:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Censorship

Should there be a section on the relative level of censorship or content regulation of pay television versus regular terrestrial broadcast? I've only lived in the U.S. and Taiwan, but in my experience, pay TV generally has less stringent regulations on what may be aired than free terrestrial broadcast does. For example, you pretty much never get to see nudity of any form (even National-Geographic-type documentary programs on indigenous peoples, or infants, or programs on biology/human anatomy) in regular terrestrial broadcast in either Taiwan or U.S., but both countries have networks dedicated to pornography on cable and similar pay TV. The same is true regarding verbal profanity and extreme violence and gore.

I know most TV networks have standards and practices department, but the rules and regulations imposed on content creators seems far less stringent/heavy-handed on pay TV in comparison to terrestrial broadcast. I believe in the U.S. there may be legal reasons for this, however, I could be wrong. Anyway, a good example of the disparity between pay and free TV censorship is the airing of uncensored/unedited versions of R-rated movies on pay TV whereas the same movies have to be edited for content when airing on free terrestrial broadcast. Similar, terrestrial broadcast programs such as ReBoot have faced much more severe censorship than similar animated programs on pay TV.--Subversive Sound (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

This is already explained in the programs section pretty thoroughly. TomCat4680 (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Globalise and rewrite tags

I have added the globalise tag. The basic problem with this article is that it starts out with terminology that reflects conditions in the US and attempts to squeeze other countries into the same framework, but American television is unique due to its scale and the variety of cable and satellite operators and cable and satellite channels, whether free or paid. Here in the UK the distinction between basic cable and premium cable doesn't exist in the American sense, pay television refers to the whole package purchased from (usually) the only major satellite service Sky or the only major cable service Virgin Media, and premium channels (basically sport and movies, there are no drama channels with separate monthly fees) are top ups usually purchased from one of those two as an upgrade or more frequently part of an expanded package. Listing Sky and Virgin as UK equivalents of HBO and Showtime etc is completely misleading. They are more like the UK equivalents of DirecTV and Comcast. I believe the situation in the UK is probably far more typical of the majority of the world than the situation in the US, but I don't know enough to restructure the article myself. 81.99.182.245 (talk) 02:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Subscription television

Because this article, for whatever reason, is only about premium services, and subscription television is a more general term than that, I was thinking about making "Subscription television" a general article about cable, satellite, and similar services. It would probably also have to include services such as Hulu and Amazon. But the idea is that MVPD is a U.S. term and concerns only these services (but not Hulu or Amazon, at least so far) in the United States. Any thoughts on this?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions •

Write an article on MVPD then and leave Pay TV as is or with a reference/link to MVPD. Jmccormac (talk) 15:42, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

The article on MVPD is already there, but it has been criticized for being only about the U.S., and some people tried to add content about other countries. I reverted because I solved the problem by stating in the lead this was a U.S. topic, due to MVPD being a U.S. term. I'm trying to find another solution that will allow the general topic to be covered.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

After taking a closer look at this article, I see that it is in fact about the general concept of pay TV, despite what the hatnote and first section say. So maybe the solution is to let this article be about Pay TV and create a new one about premium channels.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

GET is missing from the list

it is a provider of pay tv in norway. altibox is also missing from the list. please add them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.212.111.156 (talk) 11:22, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Subscriber decline

Why isn't it mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.69.229 (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 5 October 2018

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus against move. (closed by non-admin page mover) feminist (talk) 08:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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Pay television → Premium television channel – Moving this article to Premium television channel should give a more clearer title. After that, turn the Pay television page into a disambiguation page. JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 09:50, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Oppose: The term "pay television" is clear enough to be understood. Premium television is just a type of pay-TV, in which you have to pay a fee in order to watch certain TV networks. WP:COMMONNAME--Bankster (talk) 17:15, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Oppose: The term is used in the industry and has been in use for decades. Jmccormac (talk) 20:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose as above and because the article is about the subscription practice and providers, not specific channels as the proposed name would imply. -- Netoholic @ 10:05, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
• Comment: Isn't this article about premium TV channel operations (like HBO, Showtime, Sky Sports, Sky Cinema) as opposite to basic-level specialty channels (TNT, CNN, Paramount Network, Sky One, Sony Channel), and not paid subscription multichannel provider (DirecTV, Xfinity, Virgin Media)? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 12:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

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History section?

I have noticed that the main article says nothing about the origin of pay television. For instance

1. from where did the idea of pay-for-view television arise, and who first proposed it?
2. what was the first pay television station anywhere in the world?
3. how did pay television spread and where did it spread to over time? (As an example, pay television did not emerge in my Australian homeland until the middle 1990s, but was well established in some countries a quarter of a century earlier).
4. from where and from what did support and opposition to pay television come?

Luokehao, 23 March 2020, 05:23 (UTC)

A book by Bob Cooper (Television's Pirates) would be worth reading on these issues. It is an excellent book. Jmccormac (talk) 23:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

First Pay TV Service

Life magazine 1964 article on Pat Weaver's Subscription Television, Inc, a non-experimental pay TV service. Jamplevia (talk) 20:35, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Controversy

Where is the is discussion on the inherent inequality and controversy about the concept. There are significant debate about the impacts of pay TV on sport, the extra income into the sport versus the adverse affect on participation. Are there sources? 91.84.189.190 (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Jeff rivas

El día blowme 2603:8080:1C01:2E00:608C:DEB0:8E2B:191 (talk) 22:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)