Talk:Parallel novel

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This article should be retitled to "Parallel Literature" since there's more than just novels that are parallel. Another example of a play that's parallel is Sondheim's play Into the Woods with its many characters from different fairy tales. Same thing for Hoodwinked, a movie. Hires an editor (talk) 17:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I think you may be right, assuming there are in fact people who use that term "parallel literature."

Does "Ender's Shadow[4] by Orson Scott Card" really fit the definition the article gives? It's not by another author. I wonder about "I, Jedi" also, since it would appear to be an authorized novel set in the same universe. Шизомби (talk) 23:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Neither parallel novel nor literature appear to be real terms. Is the whole definition original research? I agree that books by the same author or same series should not be included (many many series show the same events from different characters viewpoints, this is normal lit). Hence i removed Ender's Shodow.Yobmod (talk) 13:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think they are established, no, they're shorthands for a certain phenomenon that have been used by a couple of people. At the same time, I disagree in that I would consider, under the definition, that Ender's Shadow and Ender's Game are one of the quintessential examples of a parallel novel. While they are by the same author, during the genesis of the novel, Card originally wanted to bring in another writer but took the project over because he liked the idea so much. The novel uses the framework established by Ender's Game and plays in the same time-line, but is entirely discernible because it deals with an entirely different character whose fate intersects with that of Ender. Now, yes, you could argue that this is typical of literature, but I don't see why we should be author-centric instead of world-centric in the question of whether a novel is "parallel" or not. jwiechers (can't log in for some reason) 91.54.92.65 (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Also

We really have to connect this to fanfic somehow. They're essentially the same thing. DS (talk) 18:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

By definition, not at all the same thing. This refers to the many works written and published by actual authors rather than fans. Within Wikipedia there's considerable overlapping and imprecise designations, whether in categories, lists, or pages. Unfortunately, the WikiProject Novels is inactive as of this writing. -- 09:28, 19 July 2017 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deborahjay (talk • contribs) 09:28, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Returned deleted title

I returned this title (Pride and Prejudice and Zombies) to this List-class article; it was deleted by Ashcroftlleum without explanation—and without discussion for concensus—and moved to a newly created article of Original Research, which he named Mashup (book),qv—not a recognized genre of literature.

Ashcroftlleum: this title meets the criteria developed by concensus, long-term, for this list-class article:"List of fictional works using settings created by other artists", and belongs on this list. A list-class article avoids the problem of creating OR, and provides an excellent page to assemble titles that meet the criteria.

I notice that you have developed—by your orginal research—the main article 'Mashup (book)' which proposes to break out a number of new titles meeting the criteria of this list, and to substitute your proposed new genre of literature >for (partially) this list—actually the proper place for these your new titles. Thank you for your hard work, but please consider others' opinions re this idea, and provide discussion and justification for these 'proposed' changes. Jbeans (talk) 09:27, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you claim the mashup (book) article contains original research - it's a pretty well established term and I've presented several sources that use it. Even if you refuse to accept Mashup as a genre, you can't deny that the phenomenon exists and that more than a few titles belong to it (by the way, what do you mean by "recognized"? who exactly has authority to recognize a genre of literature? Harold Bloom?).

The reason I removed Pride and Prejudice and Zombies from this list, and perhaps I should have explained this earlier, is that I don't believe it constitutes a "fictional work using settings created by other artists" - it is not a separate story that takes place in the world of the original narrative, or the same story told from a different perspective - it is actually changing the setting of the original work to include zombies and what not. Not that I really mind if it's listed here, but wouldn't you then have to list all the books under the mashup article as well? wouldn't that just cause the same information to appear twice for no good reason? AshcroftIleum (talk) 11:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

Pastiche or Sequel would be the pages to consider merging 'parallel novel' to if it was considered for merging.--Darrelljon (talk) 15:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Pastiche is not acceptable. Consider movies (assuming we are discussing more than just novels). A movie like The Life of Brian does not attempt to imitate serious films about Jesus. It alludes to the story of Jesus and mirrors it, but is a completely different story presented in a very different way. If you want a play instead of a movie, try Puffs, which alludes to the Harry Potter stories, but does not in any way attempt to mimic the books or the movies. It is a parallel story presented in a completely different manner. So, it is not the style being alluded to. It is the original story content. The style is completely different. 97.82.165.112 (talk) 17:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)