Talk:Oh! How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning

Latest comment: 7 years ago by ArtKocsis in topic Dead Links
Good articleOh! How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 12, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed
October 1, 2009Good article nomineeListed
December 21, 2009WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 10, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Irving Berlin wrote the song "Oh! How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning" while serving in the United States Army during World War I?
Current status: Good article

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Oh! How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Overall, the article is well written. It does a good job of describing the song and its history. There are a few things I noted as I read the article:

  1. The lead should summarize the whole article, so it should mention that the song was part of Ziegfeld follies of 1918 and This is the Army.
  2. "Although his voice was thin, his timing was perfect and he presented a hilarious stage persona" is point of view. I would recommend, "According to the reviews, his voice was thin, but his timing was perfect and he presented a hilarious stage persona."
  3. A description of the plot of the song would be nice in the "Production" section. Something along the lines of, "The song tells the story of a man who asks a soldier about life in the army. The soldier describes his hatred of waking up and of the bugler that plays reveille. He says that he hopes to become a bugler so that he can wake up the troops and return to bed."
  4. Was the song ever released on an album?
  5. The quotation in the lead section would be better if it was moved to later in the article. It could be replaced in the lead with a summary of the statement (eg. "Discussing his reasons for writing the song, Berlin said that reveille was his least favorite part of army life.").
  6. The Google Books references should be formatted with the {{cite book}} template found at Wikipedia:Citation templates.
  7. In the "Reception" section, the first sentence in the third paragraph has five references. It looks like something might have been removed, as reference 2 is placed there twice. How many of the references are actually relevant to that sentence?

I will place the nomination on hold for one week to allow for these concerns to be addressed and/or discussed. Any comments or questions can be left here, as I have the page on my watchlist. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:50, 5 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hi, thanks very much for the swift review. Insightful feedback; I'll be on it soon. DurovaCharge! 06:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
A week has passed, and these concerns remain. I am failing the review, but I urge future editors to use this feedback in preparing the article for its next GA nomination. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
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The wikipedia link for Kitchen Police

  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kitchen_Police&action=edit&redlink=1

is dead as well as the associated reference link [12] to the 1984 edition of "The world of musical comedy" by Stanley Green. In fact, that edition may never have existed as a 1984 edition does not appear in the complete list of editions of this book

  https://books.google.com/books?q=editions:ISBN0498014096]

I found 1974 and 1980 editions

  https://books.google.com/books?id=_AwJAQAAMAAJ&q=Irving+Berlin+Kitchen+Police
  https://books.google.com/books?id=noufAAAAMAAJ&q=kitchen+police

but they reference different pages so it seem to not be just a simple typo by the original editor.

In addition, the original source for the sheet music images here and on wikisource

  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Oh,_How_I_Hate_to_Get_Up_in_the_Morning

have changed. It appears that the John Hopkins music repository has changed the format of their links

  from:  http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/levy-cgi/display.cgi?id=078.098.000;pages=3;range=0-2
  to:    http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/collection/078/098

Since they have a huge collection of public domain titles I suspect that there are a very large number of dead links to their music on Wikipedia. Perhaps it is possible to make Global changes to Wikipedia links. I tried to correct the source link on the subject Wikisource commons page

  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/File:Oh_How_I_Hate_to_Get_up_in_the_Morning_1c.jpg

but there is no edit mode. I suspect why but this is not an uncommon issue. I am only an occasional contributor - I neither know how nor have an access level to do these fixes myself so the best I can do is post this alert. ArtKocsis (talk) 07:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

GA Review 2

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    B. MoS compliance:  
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:  
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:  
    C. No original research:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:  
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  

Another good article. This one is quite comprehensive for an article on a song, and leaves the reader nothing wanting. The inclusion of the actual song is an added bonus that's really what's missing from most GAs (and many FAs) these days. It appears that the concerns from the last review have been addressed, except those which I don't personally think are necessary for passing a GA. I have also fixed a number of small MOS hiccups. Congratulations! —Ynhockey (Talk) 00:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)Reply