Talk:New Harmony, Indiana

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Otr500 in topic First in the United States

Untitled edit

Just out of curiosity, how does this town usually vote in elections today? I would imagine its actually rather conservative.

How about some details on exactly what the rules for the community were.

Removed edit

I removed the information about David Owen and his contributions as a geologist. I don't see how this has anything to do with New Harmony

He died in New Harmony.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 18:09, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Intro edit

So, does anybody want to write an intro to this that actually makes sense? I mean, was it a utopian experiment that failed, or what, exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.89.227.190 (talk) 21:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

further reading section edit

I'd recommend that the Tillich and Richard Meier and Atheneum listings in the further reading section be moved to their respective Wikipedia pages and shortened in this listing. Other suggestions? Rosalina523 (talk) 15:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Needs to be broken up edit

This article needs to be broken up into constituent pieces. There are at least four encyclopedic articles clumped together here: (1) The Rappite community; (2) The Owenite community of 1825-27; (3) Regular coverage of an Indiana town; (4) The Institute.

I propose shattering out the Owenite community first — which actually needs to be expanded a bit and reorganized. This can be linked as a "Main Article" subpage... Scream loudly if this is an issue... Carrite (talk) 18:37, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

I think the Harmony Society article may already serve as the main article for the Rappite community you mention above, but it still needs cleanup and more inline citations. Since there is already a main article on the Rappites (Harmony Society), a separate article on the Owenite community makes sense, for consistency. The New Harmony page would still need a brief summary of these two important groups in the historical section, since they're key to the town's development, but the details would go into each of the main articles.Rosalina523 (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
FWIW I agree with Rosalina523. LaurentianShield (talk) 20:14, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Coordinate error edit

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105.112.46.98 (talk) 16:20, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

You haven't explained what error you're reporting. I've tweaked the coordinates in the article slightly to match those given in the GNIS record, but if you still think that there is an error, you'll need to give a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 18:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

New Harmony was an utter socialist failure edit

The left-leaning framing of the article is wrong.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-heaven-that-failed


-- 80.131.63.236 (talk) 02:12, 25 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Almost all the 19th-century utopian communities were failures in the end (unless you count Oneida, which morphed into a silverware company). The failure of New Harmony would appear to be "overdetermined" (i.e. there were several things working against it, any one of which would have been enough individually to bring it down), so I'm not sure that it does much to discredit socialism in general... AnonMoos (talk) 10:31, 25 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Another essay about New Harmony. https://lawliberty.org/the-failure-of-a-socialist-dreamer/ Nicmart (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

First public library edit

According to the American Library Association, the location of the first public library in America is “contested.” http://www.ala.org/aboutala/1731 Nicmart (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia itself does not mention New Harmony in the United States section about the history of public libraries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_libraries_in_North_America Nicmart (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

First in the United States edit

Any confirmation of "firsts in the US". This link states that in 1826:

  • "First Kindergarten in the United States at New Harmony"
  • "First Free School in the United States at New Harmony"
  • "First Co-educational School in the United States at New Harmony"
  • "First industrial school as part of free school at New Harmony"
  • First prohibition of liquor by administration". -- Otr500 (talk) 09:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Dam at New Harmony edit

The site:"Discover Indiana" mentions a dam at New Harmony on the Wabash River so historically it wasn't always free flowing for 411 miles.