Talk:Myra Breckinridge

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Shinkimancer in topic Plot makes no sense

Cleanup edit

This article seems to need a cleanup. The content is both about the novel and the film. The layout is messy, and the "Read on" section doesn't seem quite relevant to the article. Either this should be broken up into Myra Breckinridge (novel) and Myra Breckinridge (film) or the article should be rewritten, more clearly separating the two. (Entheta 05:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC))Reply

I can assure you that the article I wrote in 2003 was exclusively about the novel, as I have never seen the film. I have observed on several occasions here at Wikipedia that people who have never read the book tend to add things to the discussion of a novel which they remember (sometimes only vaguely) from the film adaptation, thus creating some sort of muddle where book and film are no longer clearly distinguished. (Well, obviously one of the inherent dangers of collaborative editing.)
But is that the case here? What exactly has been added/altered?
As to your other objection, what exactly is "messy" about the layout? The fact that the text contains images? (I can't think of anything else.) I'd gladly break up the article into two sections (first the novel, then the film), but that would leave the movie section with nothing but three screenshots and the author's comment that he has never liked the film. And the moment I remove a reference to the film from the top of the article someone else is bound to add it again.
Anyway, thanks for detailing your thoughts above. Recently I've come across numerous pages where one solitary user en passant adds the cleanup tag to an article, a bot changes it some time later to include a date, and that's all that ever happens. <KF> 19:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
The layout of the pictures made the article look a bit messy, for instance the "Read on" header is placed to the left of the Mae West picture. I alo think a list of "Explicit depiction of sexuality in mainstream fiction" is too off topic to take up a large part of the article.
I've done some updates. Let me know what you think and edit or add what you like. (Entheta 18:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC))Reply

Seriously, wow edit

IMDB or something said that Gore Vidal abandoned work on the script "because it was going in a different direction". Reading this synopsis of the book, it seems like the entire thing is exactly the same, all the way up to the whole thing being a dream. Seriously, I'm confused. Obviously the novel has been in some circles acclaimed, even popular, while the film has had nary a positive review- I'm not saying it's a great film, or even a good film--but maybe we could source articles talking about the novel to better describe the style and what makes people like it. Anyway, the thing about Gore Vidal even being invited to work on the script isn't neccessarily true. I'm just saying: Confused. Also: as a satirical novel, what folly or type of person or thing is this a satire of? I think it was written before some of the most known "It was all a dream" endings, so is this a satire, a big mockery of plot, or humanity? In any of the varied definitions of satire, satire means debasing or attacking something, so what is Myra Breckinridge the novel attacking? I'm not saying that there's a definitive answer that belongs in the article, but hey, there might be some information on this? Right?

If it really is "all a dream" then that should be in the Plot section--184.21.215.174 (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Name of character (and of book) edit

The surname Breckenridge cannot be a coincidence. At the time the book was written, Bunny Breckenridge was a drag queen, very well known in Hollywood circles, and still rather rare as an out of the closet homosexual. If anyone here knows of Vidal ever commenting on the relationship between the names, that connection to a non-fiction personality should probably be noted. Dvd Avins (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Why not write Vidal and ask, though I don't see a great relevance to the question...?24.127.137.154 (talk) 22:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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No, No, No, NO!!!!! edit

The term transgender is meant to be used, NOT transsexual, and just because Myra doesn’t have a vag doesn’t mean she should be referred to using her “pre transitional name.” (Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk) 23:31, 28 November 2018 (UTC))Reply

Plot makes no sense edit

Compare with Myra Breckinridge (film), which is understandable. --Shinkimancer (talk) 08:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)Reply