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edit@Djm-leighpark: It has a single reliable review: [1]. So, borderline. One more reliable review and it would pass WP:NSOFT. As it is... well, I said, borderline. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:25, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
No longer free
editThe lede describes Mullvad as "free open-source software", but Mullvad is no longer free; it charges users €5 per month for the service. I don't want to just go in and change the wording, as I'm not sufficiently familiar with the terminology to know if there's another descriptor that would be more accurate. Bricology (talk) 09:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Bricology, the word free in free and open-source software refers to free software rather than freeware. It's free as in freedom, but not free of charge. To help eliminate confusion, I've added a sentence to the lead section clarifying that the subscription is paid. — Newslinger talk 10:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- The distinction being made between "free software" and "freeware" is, at best, specious. "Freeware" is, after all, nothing but a portmanteau of "free" and "software", so there is no meaningful difference between "free software" and "freeware". And clarifying it by linking it with "gratis" and "libre" is meaningless to English-speakers, since neither of those are English words. "Free software" and "freeware" both mean "software for which no money is charged". If "open source" is meant, then that term should be used. It appears that the entire confusion over this is one being promoted by Richard Stallman, but instead of clarifying sentences in which the term is used, it only confuses things. The fact that there are two different articles which ostensibly try to explain the distinctions (Free software and Gratis versus libre) demonstrates that the entire effort to shoehorn a new and novel meaning into an existing and commonly-used phrase, is folly. Bricology (talk) 09:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- That a piece of software is open-source doesn't necessarily mean that it's free (as in freedom) as well. Also, it seems that both 'gratis' and 'libre' appear in English dictionaries. — Stempelquist (talk) 14:54, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
The Free software article contradicts your argument. See File:Open-source-vs-freeware.svg for an illustration. Attempting to redefine free software to mean the same thing as freeware would be an uphill battle, considering all of the articles in Category:Free software. — Newslinger talk 09:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- If it costs money it's not free. duh ShortSirKitz (talk) 13:00, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- See the Free software article for the meaning of the word free in the context of software licensing. Mullvad's client apps are licensed under GPLv3, which is a free-software license. — Newslinger talk 23:45, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- If it costs money it's not free. duh ShortSirKitz (talk) 13:00, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- The distinction being made between "free software" and "freeware" is, at best, specious. "Freeware" is, after all, nothing but a portmanteau of "free" and "software", so there is no meaningful difference between "free software" and "freeware". And clarifying it by linking it with "gratis" and "libre" is meaningless to English-speakers, since neither of those are English words. "Free software" and "freeware" both mean "software for which no money is charged". If "open source" is meant, then that term should be used. It appears that the entire confusion over this is one being promoted by Richard Stallman, but instead of clarifying sentences in which the term is used, it only confuses things. The fact that there are two different articles which ostensibly try to explain the distinctions (Free software and Gratis versus libre) demonstrates that the entire effort to shoehorn a new and novel meaning into an existing and commonly-used phrase, is folly. Bricology (talk) 09:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
mullvad and mull browser -- are they related?
editand is Mull a mole in the old sense of the meaning mole? e.g. - The Communication Center was infiltrated by a rival business' mole operative. ShortSirKitz (talk) 13:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Mullvad browser and Mull browser related? It doesn't seem so. Sure, they are both privacy-focused and based on Firefox and they both have 'mull' in their name, but they are separate products, maintained by different companies (Mullvad VPN AB and Divested Computing Group, respectively). MichielN (talk) 20:46, 24 September 2023 (UTC)