Talk:Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham

Renaming

I do not agree with renaming this page and would support restoring its established name. The Slipper Chapel is how it has been known for centuries. It has only in recent days been made a minor basilica and many other pages are known by an informal but popular name rather than a lengthy formal title.

At least it would have been good manners to raise the change on the Talk page first and not make a unilateral change Nedrutland (talk) 08:35, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

The fact that many other pages use an informal title doesn't necessarily make that right, though. It's perfectly proper for Slipper Chapel to redirect to a page which uses the correct formal title. W4rd3n (talk) 14:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

• Rename to Slipper Chapel until such time as the official website uses an alternate official name. Elizium23 (talk) 17:56, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 31 December 2015

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The result of the move request was: Moved per talk page consensus to the alternate name. (non-admin closure) Tiggerjay (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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Minor Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham → Slipper Chapel – Per official sources, there has been no name change even suggested yet. Elizium23 (talk) 21:19, 31 December 2015 (UTC)--Relisted. jcc (tea and biscuits) 21:56, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, no. Other churches like St_John_Lateran use the official title in the page header, although the building might be referred to as "Archbasilica", "Papal Basilica", "Basilica" or just "Church", and is usually just called "St John Lateran". That the Shrine's website calls the building "Slipper Chapel" does not mean that the page header should refrain from using the official title. W4rd3n (talk) 14:03, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

A Google search for "minor basilica of our lady of walsingham" turns up zero sources outside Wikipedia. You have no WP:RS to cite, attesting to this alleged new official title. No reliable sources means it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Elizium23 (talk) 17:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

The article name should normally be either the common name or the official name. In this case the common name appears to be the "Slipper Chapel" and the official name the "National Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham". There is no evidence that the official name either is as yet ~ or is ever going to be ~ the "Minor Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham". Therefore the change of the article name was not at all appropriate and it should be changed back to what it was until things are clearer. Afterwriting (talk) 07:32, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

A WP:RS may be http://rcdea.org.uk/pope-gives-special-status-to-englands-nazareth-at-walsingham/ although that may mean that the "National Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham" should have its own WP page. The Vatican should publish the decree itself in due course. There is a video of the text. W4rd3n (talk) 12:25, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

This source, just like the others, does not give the name "Minor Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham". It says "The title has been granted to the Slipper Chapel, the Chapel of Reconciliation and the Domain." I would support expanding the scope of this article to include the other mentioned parts of the shrine. Elizium23 (talk) 18:18, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Does not that suggest that the Slipper Chapel is just part of a newly-created Minor Basilica? Another argument for restoring the established and familiar name (and possibly creating a new page for the "Minor Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham". Nedrutland (talk) 19:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

I would oppose creation of a new article because the shrine complex may not be independently notable of the Slipper Chapel. Furthermore, how much can be written about the shrine complex? Currently, it is one sentence in this article. Not nearly enough to justify a split. Elizium23 (talk) 20:02, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

• Rename to "Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham" per name on official website. Elizium23 (talk) 01:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
• Support Basilica of Our Lady of Walsingham per Elizium23. A quick Google News search confirms that this is the common name for the complex. It appears that Slipper Chapel is the historic building, which is just part of the larger facility, though obviously the most important part.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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Its name

Shouldn't we be told why "slipper" .31.49.55.78 (talk) 09:37, 18 February 2018 (UTC)