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Copyrighted images

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Pd THOR recently added a {{non-free}} to the Career section of the article, and I have removed it. There are only three images used in the section and I would hardly three images as an "excessive" amount:

Each image is there for a visual to its respective subject - Milla's films The Fifth Element and Resident Evil, and her album The Divine Comedy. All have the correct copyright information as well. Also, the images fit within WP:NFCC policy. In respect to WP:NFC, the album cover is "for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item" and the film captures are visuals for "critical commentary and discussion of the cinema and television". -Lindsey8417 (talk) 02:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

Latest comment: 16 years ago31 comments3 people in discussion

I really enjoyed reading this; Jovovich is a personal favorite of mine, so it's awesome to see her article in such great shape. It passes all of the Good Article Criteria in that it is well written for the most part, it is factually accurate and verifiable, it is comprehensive, neutral and stable and well illustrated with properly tagged images. I have various nitpicky suggestions and comments, however, in order to improve the prose and readability to better fulfill the first criteria:

  • In the infobox, emdashes (—) are used instead of endashes (–); it should be the other way around per WP:DASH.
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • "reigning queen of kick-butt" is a fantastic quote, but it's not in the body of the article; the lead is supposed to be an overview. Could this be placed somewhere in the body, as well as in the lead?
  Done I added a short "In the media" section which should expand later but seems fine now as it is. I added that quote and some info about her sort of "Geek" following. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Great start, I like it. María (habla conmigo) 00:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Jovovich has been featured in numerous high profile modeling campaigns as well as in Hollywood films: this sentence is not really necessary since this is explicitly stated later on.
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Jovovich had began modeling at eleven: remove "had"
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • and she continues her career with more notable campaigns: past tense, "continued". Also, "more notable" is confusing because it's not clear whether it is meant that the following campaigns were more notable than the previously stated one, or if these campaigns were as notable; "other notable", perhaps?
  Done Changed to the past tense, and "other notable". -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Jovovich has gone on to say that: "has gone on to say" is used incorrectly here, since nothing is quoted from her before this; "has stated"?
  Done Changed to Jovovich has stated that. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Jovovich was among other models who gained controversy for partaking in the industry at a young age: "partaking" is odd here; "becoming involved"?
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Jovovich finished as the best pupil, as she did in the ballet school: this is somewhat confusing. Was she enrolled in a ballet school the same time as the Professional Actors school? Further explanation may be needed here.
  Done I have removed the statement as there is no way for me to be able to check it. The reference is from a book and the book itself is in Serbian.
  • She continued to act and in 1988...: in what? Plays?
  Done She continued to act and in 1998... -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • This sequel to The Blue Lagoon (1980) placed her opposite Brian Krause, in the romance and adventure film: the phrasing is somewhat confusing. Is "romance and adventure film" necessary?
  Done Removed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Is there a reason why 'Best Young Actress Starring in a Motion Picture' and 'Worst New Star' are using apostrophes instead of quotation marks?
  Done Just a mistake. Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • science fiction action film The Fifth Element, along side Bruce Willis and Gary Oldman: "alongside"
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • She also appeared in the music video for Lenny Kravitz song: for the Kravitz song?
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Directed by Wim Wenders, Jovovich starred along side Jeremy Davies and Mel Gibson: "alongside" again.
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • and Japan on August 31, 2002: is Japan's release date noteworthy?
I would think it was, since Resident Evil was based from the video game which was a Japanese franchise. I re-wrote a portion to say that it was released as Biohazard in Japan to match the Japanese naming of the video game. If you think that isn't noteworthy still, I'll remove it. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I see where you're coming from, and I wouldn't protest its inclusion for now. Although it's based on a Japanese franchise, the film is a German/British production (according to the article, anyway), so I could see people arguing that Japan's release date is less notable than others. María (habla conmigo) 00:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
You're right, the Japanese release isn't as notable. I'll remove it. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • She had accepted the role of Alice because she and her brother had been fans of the video game franchise: change "she" to "Jovovich" since it's not clear at first whether you're talking about the actor or the character.
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • and had partaken in karate, kick-boxing and combat-training: perhaps change to "and had trained in karate, kick-boxing and combat"?
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • The role of Fangora in Dummy, brought Jovovich together in film with Oscar-winning friend Adrien Brody: no comma. Also, I'm not sure what is meant by "brought together in film". Had they met before then? Is this how they became friends?
  Done Changed to: allowed Jovovich to act in film with Oscar-winning Adrien Brody, who was a friend previous to filming. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Sounds good, but change "previous" to "prior". María (habla conmigo) 00:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • In the role, Jovovich found an ability to identify with the character because Fangora possessed the most similar qualities to the actresses real life than previous roles: Rewrite as: "Jovovich found it easy to identify with this role because she felt Fangora, as opposed to previous characters, possessed similar qualities to the actress's own life."
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • The role required her to partake fight training for three hours a day: replace "partake" with "do".
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • She noted during an interview that year, her large action films "have [her] commercial part [of her career] taken care of, and for [her] artistic side, [she] make independent little films that never come out" and "It's a good balance".: this is really jumbled and difficult to read with all of the brackets. Perhaps paraphrase the first quotation ("She noted during an interview that year that her large action films... etc etc) and then include the last quote about it being "a good balance".
  Done Re-worded: She noted during an interview that year that her large action films take care of the commercial part of her career, while she acts in "independent little films that never come out" to appease her artistic side, and "It's a good balance" -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • was a combination of Jovovich's parent's names - the first two letters of mother Galina and the first two letters of father Bogie's: replace dash with —
  Done Fixed. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Great, great work. Once these issues are taken care of, I'll pass the article so it can go on to bigger and better things! María (habla conmigo) 17:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Yay, that was done long before I thought. So, I'll expand the "In the media" section a bit either now, or after the review is passed - when I have the time. Thanks for reviewing! -Lindsey8417 (talk) 23:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
That was quick! Congrats on your newest Good Article and I hope to see this at FAC one day. :) Let me know if it goes that route; I'd be happy to review it again. María (habla conmigo) 01:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Great! If it ever gets to that point, you'll be the first on Wikipedia to know. Thanks so much. -Lindsey8417 (talk) 01:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


Great work all involved on this article, was a pleasure to read. If only you were doing all of wiki haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.35.226 (talk) 06:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

millaj.com.ru

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This is not an official site. It is in fact a ripoff of the official site. Please do not re-add the link without discussing and gaining consensus here. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Father was incarcerated for most of her childhood?

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

"Jovovich's father was incarcerated for most of her childhood for partaking in an illegal operation with medical insurance; he was given a twenty year sentence in 1994". Since she must have been at least 18 when he was sentenced, how can the five years from 1994 to 1999 count as "most of her childhood"? Moletrouser (talk) 13:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Latest comment: 15 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

The current pronunciation is /ˈjɔvɔviʧ/, but the correct Serbian pronunciation should be more like /ˈjɔvɔvitɕ/ (note the soft Ć, instead of the hard Č). I believe this is also the pronounciation used by English speakers. Should I change it? Admiral Norton (talk) 23:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC) 

Help!  (This is supposed to be part of the previous section. I'm sure if you use Wikipedia a lot, this seems like second nature, but rest assured that to the rest of the universe, we sit in wonder and can only begin to imagine what's going on. Can someone sort this, please? I'll sign if it helps: 90.240.198.70 (talk) 01:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC))

I can't write any of the symbols in the actual article as I do not know how, but the last character given for the pronunciation of Milla's second name has no equivalent in the IPA chart produced when one clicks on her name. 90.240.198.70 (talk) 00:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, this is silly - I've now made a new section, deleted a third, produced a massive line that spans the universe, and all I'm trying to do is comment. Come on - couldn't this be easier to use?

Russian ethnicity of her mother

Latest comment: 15 years ago8 comments3 people in discussion

In the interview to Russian Nights she clearly said that her mother was of Russian ethnicity, and that she never forgets of her Russian roots. I wasn't the one who brought that reference it was here long ago, here it is.

Neverthless, dispite no references given in the article for that, someone wrote that her mother was of mixed Russian and Ukrainian ethnicity. I don't say it's a lie but no links were brought for the Ukrainian ethnicity on her mothers side. If her mother also had Ukrainian ethnicity, please bring a link.

Since we do have a link for her partial Russian ethnicity I also added her to the Russian-Americans category. I'm sexy, I'm hot, I'm everything your not (talk) 21:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Well her mother seems to be born in Dnepropetrovsk [1]... with doesn't tell us much either since it is Russian spoken but the you can still consider yourself Ukrainian if you were born there... Personally I'm completely fed up with the fact that Russian editors try to make everybody who was born in pre-independent Ukraine and who became famous look Russian even though there is no proof of there ancestry.... (not that I'm acusing you of that, at least your descend enough to ask!). No Ukrainians living in big cities before 1991? The fact is it is impossible to proof there no Russian/Ukrainian/Polish ancestry's in anybody born in Ukraine that's way I prefer the term "Soviet actress born in Dnepropetrovsk" (and let people guess :))))))). Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I found an interview in witch she calls herself "a strong Ukrainian girl, that is why I work a lot" [2]. Must admit I also found plenty interview in witch she called herself Russian, but she feels at least partly Ukrainian!!!! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 01:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not going to delete you're edit but I'm going to ask a question. Don't you think that in the link you gave she talks about nationality and not ethnicity? Anyway this is garbage that no Ukrainians lived in big city. In east and south Ukraine maybe because it was Russian once, but in west and central Ukraine? Most of the people in Kiev were Ukrainians, in Lviv, Ivano-Frankovsk, a huge majority was Ukrainians. Damn it I'm half Ukrainian and all my Ukrainian rots are in big cities like Vinitza. I'm sexy, I'm hot, I'm everything your not (talk) 15:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

In the view interviews I saw of her on youtube she has called herself "born in Russia" and in another one "born in the Ukraine". I got the idea she either doesn't care what her ethnicity is or doesn't know or she deserves better interviews :). I think that there where always some Ukrainians living in every town in Imperial Russia west of the Ural Mountains :) Anyhow I consider everybody who lives/or lived a long time in Ukraine a Ukrainian. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

You considering Mr. Ivanov from Kiev Ukrainian because he was born in Ukraine won't turn him into an ethnic Ukrainian ;-) Those are biological facts, not political. I'm sexy, I'm hot, I'm everything your not (talk) 16:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Doctors can do a lot today :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I smell M.V.E.i. (talk · contribs) around here. Colchicum (talk) 19:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Jovovich-Hawk

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I read somewhere recently (I don't remember where)that the Jovovich-Hawk fashion line is now defunct. Can anyone verify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.2.7.218 (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Top of the article states that it is no longer in production. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.118.249 (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Milla Speaks French or Ukrainian?

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I noticed the sections about her not being able to speak much Russian or Serbian but I also read that she was fluent in French and according to a song, "In the Glade" that it was Ukrainian. Does anyone know the truth there? Armoredavian (talk) 08:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The article says she speaks English, French and Russian. That would make her understand Ukrainian to some degree and a little bit of Serbian, but not much, but that's just my speculation. Admiral Norton (talk) 10:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Rather Old Picture of Milla

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I noticed that the current one is from 2002...There has to be a more recent one floating around somewhere... BlueChainsawMan (talk) 08:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Mojitovich

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Not notable yet. One Yahoo hit of an interview, and a mirror, of the Splenda-replaces-sugar Mojitovich. So, in years to come, should everyone be arguing about where it came from.../shrug. Anarchangel (talk) 06:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not even an issue of notability, it's an issue of useless, trivial information. --Izno (talk) 07:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

fourth kind

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

no mention in the article yet of her upcoming movie "the fourth kind"? Rmd1023 (talk) 17:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Non-free image

Latest comment: 14 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

Why is the non-free image File:Milla Jovovich Resident Evil 2002.jpg used here? The subject is a living person and the image isn't illustrating anything super-special that can't be described in text, so I don't see how this image meets the non-free content criteria. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 02:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

There has been no response, so I've removed the image. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 17:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
It illustrates how she looks like in one of her primary roles - in an action movie. It also depicts a costume designed by Jovovich's own clothing line. I think it's very essenial.--  LYKANTROP  ✉ 19:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
A response would have been nice a month and a half ago, but oh well.... Anyway, it's not typical to use a non-free image to show an actor in a role unless there are very special reasons, and you still haven't explained why it's so important that the reader see her character or her costume. I am going to list this at WP:NFCR. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 19:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Listed at WP:NFCR#File:Milla Jovovich Resident Evil 2002.jpg. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 19:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Allright. That seems to be a good idea. The point is that this article passed its GAN with a picture of Jovovich from Resident Evil. The sixth GA criterium says "Illustrated", which is the only reason why an image was added. It was not added to make the article look nicer or whatsoever. In the article there are lots of refereces to Jovovich's role in action movies; and as I mentioned the article also comments the costume. In my opinion, the infobox image does not explain how she looks like in action-horror movies, for which she is known. So I don't see a point in removing content that is a part of the reason why the article is listed as a good article. That is basically only decreasing the quality of the article. But lets a third party decide :) --  LYKANTROP  ✉ 00:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Ukrainian interview

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Ukrainian born is wrong

  1. because it implicates she is from Ukrainian descendent, she is not! Her official own website describe the mother as "russian actress" (not Ukrainian) and the father as "serbian doctor" (not Montenegrinian although born in Montenegro). In Ukraine are living a few Russians and in Montenegro are living a few Serbians, to be born there does not make them to Ukrainians or Montenegrinians although Ukrainian and Montenegrin nationalists would welcome to claim such VIP as their own.
  2. the citated interview is event-linked. She did some benefit for ukrainian children and gave an interview about it. Of course in that moment she will underline that she is Ukrainian born, a "ukrainian girl" for show what she has in common and why she does so. Publicity linked with that special moment. That´s why you cannot find a general statement from her, not event-linked, that she would be ukrainian. You can compare the "I am ukrainian girl" statement with Kennedys "Ich bin ein Berliner" (I am a Berlinian), it was based on a very special event and done for saying something friendly and kindful to the host nation. That´s all.

But if you cannot resist to point out her ukrainian roots then you can write Kievan born, I changed it this way. --Roksanna (talk) 09:53, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Misformatted, dead link in main article

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I noticed that reference 4 in the main article (to a youtube video of her Married With Children episode) was misformatted. I was going to fix it using a better citation template, but the link is also dead ("unavailable video"). No surprise there. There are many better references to this episode (#63, Season 4, Episode 6, 1989, "Fair Exchange"). Here is a link [3] with some screen shots. There are others including her official site and imdb. Sorry but I don't have time to edit this nor time to discuss how the consensus would be for which one to use. Just wanted to point it out that the current one is garbled and 404. This is a great article, well done. Xblkx (talk) 06:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Not sure about her fluent Russian.

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

About 5 or 6 years ago she took part in a Russian talk show "Женский взгляд Оксаны Пушкиной"(Woman's look by Oxana Pushkina) along with her mother. Her mother spoke only Russian. When Milla tried to reply in Russian she realized that her knowledge of it was really bad and continued in English. Then both of them sad that she has simply forgotten it. 70.55.132.127 21:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Jovovich singing on "Little Light of Love" ?

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The articles says,

The Fifth Element Soundtrack (1997) - "Little Light of Love" (with RXRA),

under "Compilations, soundtracks and albums featuring Jovovich". However the only info I can find about this, on IMDB [4] and www.millaj.com [5] contradicts that statement. Allmusic.com's listings for "performers" for that album/song only says RXRA, no mention of Jovovich. So, removed the line from the article since it had no citation. (Hope that was the right thing to do =) -- Rinman 85.227.1.137 12:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

height

as part of the side bar in this and other celeb writeups, there should be included their height etc /s/ deenardo shoelayce III 00:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.221.97 (talk)


Ruso - idioma nativo Mila??? ¿De veras??

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Ella no habla ruso bien. Y definitivamente no es su lengua materna. ¿Dónde puedo saber - Rusia es realmente mi patria! Dreamins 07:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


Milla jovovich in an article published in 2002, she was said to be Miuccia Prada's muse and in an article published in 2003, Harpers & Queen magazine claimed Jovovich was Gianni Versace's "favourite supermodel".In 2004, Jovovich topped Forbes magazine's "Richest Supermodels of the World" list, earning a reported $10.5 million.In 2006, Jovovich was picked up by Spanish clothing line Mango as their new spokesmodel and is currently featured in their ad campaigns;she can also be seen in ads for Etro. She has noted that "Modeling was never a priority"and it instead enables her "to be selective about the creative decisions [she] make[s]".She is now recently been the face of L'Oréal for many ad campaigns. Chikobizarro 23:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Dates?

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

She was on a magazine cover the year BEFORE her mother "resorted to cleaning houses to earn money"? She dropped out of school in 7th grade at age 12 to focus on modeling but went back and graduated from high school at age 16? Something hinky here. Many of the sources are articles based on interviews with the subject and therefore unreliable. Status as a good article should be reassessed. 96.35.172.222 (talk) 21:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Similarly, shouldn't her filmography include The Night Train to Kathmandu (1988)? It was certainly her first starring role in anything.174.92.96.182 (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

The Night Train to Kathmandu is already included. Since this film was made for television (Disney Channel), it is listed under the Television section of her filmography. Msw1002 (talk) 15:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Why bad pictures?

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

because of copyright? Milla Jovovich is the most beautiful woman in the world. I think, you can put better pictures of her. Böri (talk) 08:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Religion

Latest comment: 13 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

She was raised in the Russian Orthodox religion. http://www.millaj.com/faq.shtml Please add. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.234.142.86 (talk) 20:43, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

This is the quote from above FAQ:
From Milla's Twitter feed (@MillaJovovich): "Ppl hve been asking what religion I am. Well, I'm russian orth. by birth, but I'll go 2 any church where I feel love and spirit! God bless!"
I'm not sure how we could enter this. Note in the early life section that she was raised Rus Orth but is now non-denominational? Millahnna (talk) 20:39, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
We can add material that is relevant and has reliable sources. Wiki does not consider Twitter reliable. Let's see if we can find a better course for this material. --BwB (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I thought twitter could be used (sparingly) when it was a verified account? Even if it could be used (or we had a better source with the exact same info), I'm still not sure how we'd enter the information. It would seem a little weird to me to specify the religion she was raised in and then not be as specific about the one she identifies with now. But there's no way of knowing from that what her current religion is. My guess is a variety of Christianity but that's just a guess. Millahnna (talk) 18:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
If we find sources that talk about her current religious beliefs, then we can add material. I am hesitant to use Twitter as a source. I have seen many BLP articles that have sentences like, "X was raised Catholic...", or "X grew up in a Jewish household..." We might say something like that for Milla? --BwB (talk) 07:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The Winter Queen

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

The "Recent and future roles (2007–present)" section says, Jovovich was set to portray Amalia Bezhetskaya in The Winter Queen in 2007, however, with the announcement of her pregnancy early that year, the film was postponed until Summer 2008. This must be from a very old edit, as I'm not sure Winter Queen has even made it to post-production. Anyone know what's going on with this film? Latest news is it'll be distributed by Seven Arts and GFM, but details are still vague as to when.—Biosketch (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found this, edited article accordingly.—Biosketch (talk) 21:53, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Vykrutasy

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Who will be translating this article into English?--Guzikov96 (talk) 13:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Anti-Communist

Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

To avoid edit warring about whether Jovovich is anti-communist or not, a few reminders. The article must adhere to WP:BLP. Publishing uncertain information a person's political stance is not acceptable, sources are absolutely necessary. Original research or synthesis isn't enough to verify her alleged "anti-communist" sentiment. Also, if she's to be included in a category related to anti-communism, it should be explained in the article body so the readers know why she is in the category. Zakhalesh (talk) 19:11, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Only with statement cited to a credible and reliable source should such a category be included. Skomorokh 21:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Yep, Wikipedia is very strict about categories and the "anti-communist" claim needs to be well supported in the article with reliable sources before being applied here. SQGibbon (talk) 23:21, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Citizenship/nationality

Latest comment: 12 years ago28 comments10 people in discussion

I guess we need a topic here since this slow burn edit war is neverending. My understanding is that she was Ukrainian born and now a naturalized American citizen. We cover the birth nationality in the body of the article but it seems appropriate to me to call her an American actress as that is her citizenship. But we don't really mention that she was naturalized in the article. Perhaps finding a source and noting that will help? Millahnna (talk) 07:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, I don't see anything on her official site that says she is an American citizen. A quick Internet search did not reveal anything reliable either. You would think that after living in the US all these years it would have happened, but maybe not? SQGibbon (talk) 05:05, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I found one source from here which appears to be a copy of the Feb 1995 issue of Loaded. In it the writer claims that she's an American citizen. Not sure it's such a reliable source though. SQGibbon (talk) 05:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I really wouldn't consider that a good source. In the absence of any source documenting her US naturalization, I would recommend removing (or at least commenting out) the category references dealing with "American" this or that. Richwales (talk · contribs) 06:03, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree all the way around. SQGibbon (talk) 06:50, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Anyway the wording “Ukrainian-born” is a bit awkward here, since she was born in the country called Soviet Union from a Serbian father and a Russian mother. And if not American, what citizenship do you expect her to have? --Glebchik (talk) 21:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
That's a good point. She left before the dissolution of the Soviet Union and I have no idea how her citizenship would have been handled with her not being there when it did happen. SQGibbon (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

It's rather silly questioning this, especially when it's only one IP edit warring, screaming and trying to bully people into his/her preferred version. Considering the fact that she has lived in America for 30 years, it also leads me to question whether it matters if she is a citizen or not, or just has permanent residency. Nymf hideliho! 22:37, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is worried about the IP, we're just trying to get it right for the article's sake. And I tend to agree that regardless of her official citizenship she at least has legal/permanent residency in the US and that's where her career started and where she was when she became notable. In that sense, she's American. While I couldn't find any guidelines that dealt with this kind of case specifically, my interpretation is that for the lede since she became notable in the US and still lives there that would make her American (WP:OPENPARAGRAPH). At this point I could pretty much be convinced of anything though. SQGibbon (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
She could, in theory, be stateless (not having any citizenship in any currently existing country) — I assume this is probably not the case, but we really need to find a source. WP:OPENPARAGRAPH says we should cite the country of which the person is or was a citizen/national (and that's not the same as being a non-citizen permanent resident), so I'm not comfortable with calling her an "American" unless we can find a reliable source showing that she has in fact become a naturalized US citizen. I will agree she most likely is a US citizen, but let's put our efforts into finding a reasonable source. I'm not paying attention to the rants from the anon-IP at all; we have no reason to assume he/she really is Jovovich's agent, and his/her edit summaries are coming uncomfortably close to violating the spirit, if not the letter, of WP:LEGAL. If the anon-IP has reliable info regarding Milla Jovovich's citizenship status, it would help greatly if he/she could supply some sources for this. Richwales (talk · contribs) 01:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

To summarize the discussion for when this comes up again, the current consensus/what's in the article now is to not mention her nationality or where she was born in the lead paragraph. The reasons are as follows:

  1. No reliable source has been found to indicate that she is a citizen of the US. This in spite the fact that she moved there when she was 11 and presumably maintains a residence there. Without a really good reliable source that has evidence of her citizenship we cannot make that claim.
  2. She was born in the Ukraine when it was still part of the USSR. Further, she left Ukraine before the dissolution of the USSR so it's not clear what her citizenship status would be with regard to the independent country of Ukraine. Again, without a reliable source indicating that she is a citizen and that she identifies as an Ukrainian this should not be mentioned in the lead paragraph. Also, neither of her parents were from the region of the Ukraine which further muddles the point of whether she would be considered a citizen of that country now.
  3. Even though she was born in the Ukraine what Ukraine is now is different than what it was then. Saying that she is "Ukrainian born" ignores this rather significant distinction and more specifically implies that she was born in the current country of Ukraine which did not exist then (in the same way it does now). The lead paragraph is no place to discuss the political history of Ukraine so it's best not to mention that she was born there.

Until some reliable sources can be found it's best to not even mention her nationality or birth place in the lead paragraph. SQGibbon (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the summary SQG. In looking at her official web site FAQ, I noticed that she identifies ethnically as Montenegrian but no note of her citizenship is made. I put in a question to see if she'd update that on her page. SO maybe we'll get something eventually there to deal with this. Millahnna (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

For the record, the webmaster of her site just emailed me back and said she has U.S. citizenship but he is unsure of if she maintains dual-citizenship. I realize we can't use this here, of course, and am attempting to convince him to add it to her FAQ or bio. So now we know, even if we can't use it at all. Strangely, I still feel better. Millahnna (talk) 23:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Good job in contacting the webmaster. The answer had to be out there somewhere, it just took some extra digging by you to find it. SQGibbon (talk) 00:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Webmaster dude never got back to me on adding the the info to her website. I'm assuming dude gets a lot of emails since Milla is fairly popular so no big deal. I've been checking her bio page and the faq page (can't find a link to it on her site but helpful IP linked to it below) to see if the citizenship gets added. So far, no joy. But it's something to keep an eye on. I will eventually space out on something else so don't count on me to keep looking it up. :D Millahnna (talk) 20:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Added Category:Ukrainian film actors: I don't understand why this hasn't been added yet, but I added it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missjackie (talk • contribs) 05:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Jackie (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

How is being a "Ukrainian film actor" determined? I'm not familiar with actors by nationality categories or what criteria are used but given the discussion above concerning her place of birth and current citizenship I would like to see some kind of rationale for this. Wikipedia is really picky about how categories are assigned to articles so I think this needs some kind of discussion. SQGibbon (talk) 08:52, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Since no one has come up with anything I've gone ahead and removed the category. SQGibbon (talk) 21:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

People, there are decaf brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing. She is an Actress who lives and acts in America, making her an American Actress. She was born in the Ukraine. At the time, it may have been part of the UUSR, however; and be that as it may be, it still leaves her coming into this world IN THE UKRAIN. Which was a, theoretically, self-soveriegn entity under the central USSR government, a member of a republic. Think of it as saying she was born in Kansas, yes, it's part of the USA, but it's also KANSAS. Also a member of a different republic. It all works. Only dedicated nit pickers need pick these nits. Take a vellum, relax. Turn off the computer, go for a walk, gain some perspective. And have a great day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.252.0.106 (talk) 00:07, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Was anything determined on this subject? Any more reliable sources? Msw1002 (talk) 17:53, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes. WP:OPENPARA and template:infobox person. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 17:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hmm...Apparently, did not read the entire discussion, what does WP:OPENPARA and template:infobox person have to do with this discussion. A reliable source is being sought for her citizenship/nationality.Rivertown (talk) 22:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
WP:OPENPARA still needs a reliable source in order to establish her nationality. Everyone please read my summary above for where things still stand. If there's an interpretation of policy or guidelines that anyone feels is in error then definitely bring it up and we'll re-open the discussion. SQGibbon (talk) 22:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
How about this? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 07:45, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Wow, nice find! That looks pretty good to me. SQGibbon (talk) 14:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. Good source, that should be used in changes. Msw1002 (talk) 17:44, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

All that's left now is some minor formatting issues. Jaan added her nationality to the infobox and the lead paragraph with the citation listed above. I added a small bit of text to the "Early life" section using the same citation. Generally speaking we don't use footnotes in infoboxes and lead paragraphs as that information is supposed to also be in the main body of the article which is where the citations are linked to. There's nothing wrong with having that same footnote about her nationality in three spots but it's just not necessary (and aesthetically it kind of clutters things up a bit). So unless anyone objects, and it's really not that big of a deal either way, I'm going to get rid of the footnotes in the infobox and lead paragraph. SQGibbon (talk) 02:52, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Music Career

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I had the good fortune to meet Mrs. Jovovich at the Resident Evil: Apocalypse wrap party (a get-together they have after filming is done) back in late 2003 thanks to a friend who worked on the film. I did manage to get in a question to her about her musical career, asking if she planned on releasing another album. Her reply was that due to the negative criticism she received for The Divine Comedy, she had no plans on putting out another commercial album, preferring instead to release music via her website. I obviously cannot cite myself so this cannot be added to her Wiki page, but I can mention it here where her fans might find it. X3J11 (talk) 15:45, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Nationality...

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Should it not say she is Ukrainian with American citizenship? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.107.225 (talk) 20:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

See WP:OPENPARA. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 21:21, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Spelling of name vs url spelling

Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Her given name is spelled "Milla," however, in the url address to the article, it's spelled, "Mila."
I would fix the spelling of the url address to the article, but I have no idea how to fix that.
Right now, I'm applying a correction to a Beavis and Butthead article section that references Milla Jovovich as a Featured Video (Episode 159), and I will proceed as everything stands at this moment. If someone with the know-how can fix the url spelling, it would be much appreciated; thank you.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 09:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Huh; never mind, it seems to have fixed itself. See what I mean about my not knowing. If someone fixed it in the time it took me to write this talk section, thank you.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 09:23, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Image

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The infobox image is slightly lookalike a wax statue then please change it with another.---zeeyanketu talk to me 18:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Wealth.

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What is her wealth? СЛУЖБА (talk) 17:35, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Help. How can I put a quote as part of the reference?

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Can someone please help me put the quote and it’s translation as part of the reference to the fact that Mila’s mum was Russian? I just figured for those who don’t speak Russian it would be good to see a translation.

[6] “У меня русская мама, она была знаменитой актрисой в СССР (Галина Логинова. — Газета). И первые книги, которые я прочитала, были на русском языке. Я воспитывалась в атмосфере русской классической театральной школы. Искусство, построенное на системе Станиславского, — это наиболее реалистичное искусство. И современное кино стоит на этих же принципах. Ведь русскому человеку важно докопаться до правды. Это и есть основа русской культуры. Я об этом никогда не забываю, тем более что у меня русские корни.”

“I have Russian mother, she was a famous actress in the USSR (Galina Loginova). And the first books, which I read, were in Russian. I was raised in the atmosphere of the Russian classical theatre school. The art, built on the system of Stanislavsky – that’s the most realistic art. And the modern cinema stands on the same principle. A Russian person wants to find the truth. This is the base of the Russian culture. I never forget it, especially since I have Russian roots.”

Thank you! 79.99.144.141 (talk) 08:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

"I am a strong Ukrainian girl"

Latest comment: 11 years ago18 comments3 people in discussion

I seem to be in a dispute about the sentence in this article: "I am a strong Ukrainian girl". According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking: "Appropriate links provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project that are likely to increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand". The topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong Ukrainian girl" is Ukrainians (the topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong girl born in Ukraine" is Ukraine). Hence edits like this one are incorrect. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:31, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

The article Ukrainians talks about Ukrainians as an ethnic group, and she is clearly not ethnically Ukrainian. For example when I go abroad I say I'm English or British, but ethnically I am Belarusian and Polish. When you open a page of every "English football player" English always lead to England and not English people. I think because of the fact in the Soviet Union when people said nationality they ment ethnicity it caused some problems for people from the CIS to see the difference, which I understand, but it's important to see the difference in definition. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with "ethnic groups"; but with linguistics... The topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong Ukrainian girl" is Ukrainians. According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking: "Appropriate links provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project that are likely to increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand". You are ignoring my arguments here above completly. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I would have preferred if you had waited till this disagreements was resolved through discussion (and other peoples input in this discussion) first instead of trying to get things your way by reverting 5 minutes old edits. You can also not claim that you know exactly what other people mean whilst you have never met those people let alone asked them. Other people have to be able to check that you didn't just make things up. We don't know what Jovovich meant when she said "I am a strong Ukrainian girl"; if you do know what she meant; please tell us how you found that out.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm not making things up, it's a fact. Ukrainians doesnt talk about people in Ukraine but about the ethnic group. I gave you a clear example with the English football players, you can find a similar one for many other cases. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 19:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

So you don't know what Jovovich meant when she said "I am a strong Ukrainian girl"? Or are you avoiding my arguments again? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

It ment that she is from Ukraine, but that doesnt make her Ukrainian by ethnicity, ethnically she's half Serbian and half Russian. She is Ukrainian by place of birth, so it should redirect to Ukraine. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 20:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

The topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong Ukrainian girl" is Ukrainians; hence the re-direct should be to Ukrainians. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Ukrainian as for born in Ukraine, obviously she didn't mean Ukrainian ethnicity because she is not Ukrainian by ethnicity! 94.0.160.176 (talk) 21:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

You don't know that.... But is is irrelevant what she meant: According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking: "Appropriate links provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project that are likely to increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand". The Manual of Style does not talk about "The links should provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project at the choosing of the subject of the Wikipedia article". For the readers linking to Ukrainians will increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand (Milla Jovovich) more then a link to Ukraine (in this part of the article). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:41, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Don't know what...? As far as we know she didn't have people of Ukrainian ethnicity in her family. But she is not ethnically Ukrainian, that's why linking her to a link about Ukrainians doesnt make sense. The link should go to Ukraine simply because that's where her reerence to Ukraine comes from. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 21:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

You don't know that she didn't meant Ukrainian ethnicity (because she is not Ukrainian by ethnicity). You decided (for her) that she did not meant that without consulting her on it. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

See Ukrainian. Any further questions? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 13:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
I agree! Makes sense. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 16:36, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Jaan! You where right. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me, but do you mind re-reading what you wrote, and telling me if it makes sense? She is obviously not of Ukrainian ethnicity, that is known, she is half Russian and half Serbian, so why would she claim she is of Ukrainian ethnicity if she is not? It's obvious the only thing she could mean was nationality, which is a different case. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 16:36, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

We at Wikipedia work with sources.... We report what the sources say! Not what we think they say... There have been millions of people who have claimed that they are something which they where not.... and later claimed something else. Why something claims something is not the issue here on Wikipedia; it is about finding sources who say why they say something, not about personal opinions and personal interpretations why somebody says something. That is what I tried to teach you (in a bit roundabout way I agree...). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

It's funny you said that, because you yourself were not reporting what the source said, which is obvious, Ukrainian=born in Ukraine (because ethnically she is not Ukrainian so she could not mean ethnically Ukrainian), but you tried to twist it around and somehow redirect a person who has nothing do do with Ukrainians as an ethnic group to an article talking about ethnic Ukrainians. I don't see how you can teach me something you don't know yourself :-) I guess you have some learning to do :-P Being 24/7 on Wikipedia doesnt mean you have more authority, it means many things, but not that. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 09:58, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 June 2013

Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

put her as a martial artist as one of the categories.

24.0.241.172 (talk) 20:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

  Not done for now: Milla being involved in martial arts is only mentioned once in the personal life part of the article, and it's un-sourced. Do you have a reliable source that supports she is a martial artist? If so, please re-add the {{edit semi-protected}} template with the source and we can update the article :) — Deontalk 13:32, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 June 2013

Latest comment: 10 years ago6 comments6 people in discussion

Mila Jovovich is the daughter of a serbian montenegrin Bogić Jovovic and her mother Galina Loginova Jovović from ukraine. the german article already includes this information. The Article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasojevi%C4%87i also descriibes this fact and already lists Mila as one of the Notable descendants of the Vasojevići tribe. I would like to add this information. Vuk3k (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done. This is already in the article. Do you have a source to back the last part up? Nymf talk to me 19:21, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

First of all, the correct translation in this case is clan, not tribe. Her father is montenegrin, as Vasojevići is a montenegrin clan. Serbs do not have a clan social structure, it is not-existent in Serbia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.228.110.237 (talk) 12:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

It is true that there is no "clan social structure" in Serbia. No one said that there is one, no one claimed that her father is from Serbia. We only claim that her fathers ethnicity is Serbian, because as you might know there are a lot of Serbs in Montenegro and Vasojevici are actually a Serbian clan as most of its members declare as Serbs. You shouldn't mix ethnicity and citizenship. Her fathers family has origins in Montenegro but he was actually born and raised in Serbia, in Kosovo. 217.24.139.42 (talk) 20:40, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

In a modern world, I don't think anyone can be listed as part of a clan without herself acknowledging that. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 11:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Her family was originally a part of a clan (or tribe) of people of Serbian ethnicity that inhabited a part of Montenegro. The term Montenegrin is purely geographical in this case, when it comes to ethnicity there is no doubt that Vasojevici are of Serbian ethnicity.94.250.79.14 (talk) 18:55, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Editing for encyclopedic tone

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Given its reliance on fan magazines, the article too much reflects their tone. Every detail that has been published (e.g., quotes on watching video games as a child) does not need to be reproduced here. Try to stick to main points. Shortened Lead to have it be more of a summary; more needs to be edited out.Parkwells (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Serbian vs Montenegrin

Latest comment: 8 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

Well, this is going too far. Sources are saying that Milla is Serbian, while some users are changing to Montenegrin. Why??? If you cant choose which ethnicity of her father is, than change it to Yugoslavian. --MisterBean (talk) 17:14, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Wrong. Ms. Jovovich herself says that she is Montenegrin here and here. Also see the discussions here and here. The consensus is always that she is Montenegrin based on the most reliable sources (her own words being the most important). --Taivo (talk) 18:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
I think her father is declared as Serb, but he got Montenegrin origin. Like Ivo Andric, he is of Croat origin, but declared as a Serb. --MisterBean (talk) 11:26, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Ms. Jovovich is perfectly justified in saying that she is Montenegrin. That's what the article must say. --Taivo (talk) 14:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Ms. Jovovich says she is Montenegrin. That's the end of the matter. --Taivo (talk) 23:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Continuing Serbian nationalist vandalism ignores Ms. Jovovich's own statements here and here. Her own words take priority over the assertions and synthesis of Wikipedia editors. Also see the discussions here and here. The consensus is always that she is Montenegrin based on the most reliable sources (her own words being the most important). --Taivo (talk) 16:29, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Here are Ms. Jovovich's own words: "Jovovich was born in 1975, in Kiev, Ukraine, the only child of a Russian performer, Galina Loginova ("she was an amazing actress"), and a Montenegrin father, Bogich Jovovich. ("They're men's men in Montenegro, very macho, especially up north where my Dad and all his brothers and cousins are from.")" from [7]. --Taivo (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Disputed sentences

Latest comment: 8 years ago14 comments2 people in discussion

Perhaps people could add sources for each sentence, focusing on what Jovovich and father say about themselves, which should be given priority unless there's something incongruous about what they say. Sarah (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Father's nationality/citizenship

1(a)

"Milla Jovovich was born ... the daughter of Bogić Jovović, a Montenegrin pediatrician ..."

  • Sources:
  • 2000 article in Vogue Australia posted on her official website: "Jovovich was born in 1975, in Kiev, Ukraine, the only child of a Russian performer, Galina Loginova ("she was an amazing actress"), and a Montenegrin father, Bogich Jovovich. ("They're men's men in Montenegro, very macho, especially up north where my Dad and all his brothers and cousins are from.")" (parenthetical quotes from Jovovich) --Taivo (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

1(b)

"Milla Jovovich was born ... the daughter of Bogić Jovović, a Serbian pediatrician ..."

  • Sources:
  • millaj.com, official website: "Milla Jovovich ... was born ... in Kyiv (Kiev), Ukraine to father Bogdanovitch Jovovich (Serbian doctor) and mother Galina Loginova Jovovich (Russian actress)."

1(c)

(Technically the most accurate statement because in 1981 there was no "Serbia" or "Montenegro"):

"Milla Jovovich was born ... the daughter of Bogić Jovović, a Yugoslavian pediatrician ..." --Taivo (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Sources:
Discussion
  • Thank you, Taivo. Montenegro did exist in 1981. It wasn't a state at that point, but it was a nation (it had its own cultural/ethnic identity), if I've understood correctly. Sarah (talk) 21:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • But neither Montenegro nor Serbia were independent states in 1981 and so "Yugoslavia" was the term for the country that Ms. Jovovich's father was a citizen of. (Ms. Jovovich was never a citizen of any of these countries, she was a citizen of the Soviet Union when she emigrated to the US.) So calling him "Yugoslavian" is accurate for 1981. --Taivo (talk) 23:17, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • But that's like saying someone can't be Welsh if they're also British. Anyway, I don't want to get involved in the debate because I'm trying to help only as an admin. Whatever you decide is fine with me, so long as it leads to a clear consensus – or, failing that, a well-sourced decision that's enforceable. Sarah (talk) 23:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • The point of this option wasn't to actually say that her father was "Yugoslavian" necessarily, but just to include it as one of the options in the data. I appreciate your effort in setting this survey up. --Taivo (talk) 00:45, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Subject's nationality/citizenship

2(a)

"She identifies as Russian, Ukrainian, Montenegrin, and American."

  • Sources:

2(b)

"She identifies as Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, and American."

  • Sources:

Other option

Omit any mention of parents' nationality/citizenship, or which nationality/ethnicity she identifies as.

I don't have a problem with this. --Taivo (talk) 00:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
This option would certainly solve things. Thank you to Kww for suggesting it. Sarah (talk) 00:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Filmography: Savva: Heart of the Warrior

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Jovovich is the voice actor in English version, not the original Russian version. Does it need to be explained in the "Role" and "Notes" fields of table? I think a clarification about that movies is good. --Zyma (talk) 00:45, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Serb father − says her official website!

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Her official website bio clearly says:

″Milla Jovovich (pronounced "mee-luh" "yo-vo-vitch") was born December 17, 1975 in Kyiv (Kiev), Ukraine to father Bogdanovitch Jovovich (Serbian doctor) and mother Galina Loginova Jovovich (Russian actress). In 1981, Milla and her family left the Soviet Union and moved to London, England and then to Sacramento, California, ultimately settling in Los Angeles.″

Source: http://www.millaj.com/bio.shtml

(IMDb biography page claims the same:

"Her Serbian father, Bogdan Jovovich, was a medical doctor in Kiev."

Source: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000170/bio)

However, some users like TaivoLinguist constantly cite her official website wrongly and falsely claim that her father is Montenegrin, although there isn't word Montenegrin even mentioned on the cited site!

The other cited site, which is in Serbian and they don't understand it, is stating the same fact about her father! However these facts do not prevent TaivoLinguist, Nymf and other users to vandalise the page!

Several others wikipedia pages also state that Milla Jovovich is of Serb origin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasojevi%C4%87i#Notable_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_American

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Serbian_Americans#Actors

Are they going to vandalise these wikipedia articles too, with the help of SlimVirgin?

Her article further says that her paternal family's estate was in Zlopek near Peć, Serbia, and that her paternal great-grandfather, Bogić Camić Jovović, was a flag-bearer of the Vasojevići clan.

And what is Vasojevići clan (or tribe), you may wonder? Well the answer is:

"The Vasojevići tribe (Serbian Cyrillic: Васојевићи, Vasojevići, pronounced [ʋâso̞je̞ʋit͡ɕi]) is the largest Serb tribe in Montenegro."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasojevi%C4%87i

Even her last name Jovović is listet in list of brotherhoods of Vasojevići clan last names. Are you going to change that as well?

Compromise solution may be Montenegrin Serb as nationality of her father and her.

In historiography, the Orthodox people of Montenegro were called Serbs. In the constitutions of the Principality of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, the Montenegrin people's ethnonym was Serbs. With the formation of Socialist Yugoslavia, the censuses showed a majority of people declaring as Montenegrins.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegrin_Serbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobNesh (talk • contribs) 17:03, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

BobNesh's comment is so full of Serbian nationalist bulloney it's hard to know where to start.
  • First, Ms. Jovovich's official website says, in different places, that her father was "Serbian", "Montenegrin", and "Yugoslavian". Since her website is not written by Ms. Jovovich herself, however, that's not surprising.
  • Second, Ms. Jovovich's own words state that her father was Montenegrin here. There is simply no question about it. That's not just throwaway line, but a detailed description of her father. It's not someone else's summary: "Jovovich was born in 1975, in Kiev, Ukraine, the only child of a Russian performer, Galina Loginova ("she was an amazing actress"), and a Montenegrin father, Bogich Jovovich. ("They're men's men in Montenegro, very macho, especially up north where my Dad and all his brothers and cousins are from.")" (parenthetical quotes are from Jovovich herself)
  • Third, quoting other Wikipedia pages is simply not a reliable source.
  • Fourth, the editor's extended discussion of his version of history is immaterial since Ms. Jovovich, in the clearest statement available--a direct quote during an interview--says that her father was Montenegrin.
  • Fifth, finally, the very website, that BobNesh both 1) cites as authoritative and 2) rejects as authoritative, cites on both the Frequently Asked Questions page and the Recently Asked Questions page, that Ms. Jovovich is "Montenegrian".
BobNesh is simply pushing a Serbian nationalist agenda in contradiction to Ms. Jovovich's direct quotes. --Taivo (talk) 17:35, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I'll suggest the heretical notion that it doesn't matter at all. Jovovich is an American citizen with a career that is completely based in the US. She has lived in the Ukraine, London, and the United States. The ethnicity of her mother and father is of less importance than her preferred brand of suntan lotion. If we simply eliminate all references to it from the article, the article is just as good as it was before, and people that have nothing better to do than to argue about it can do so using another website's resources.—Kww(talk) 19:30, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I see Serbian IPs are still turning up to edit war the categories now that the semi-protection expired. Should we blank the categories as well? Semi-protect the article again? Pinging @Kww: and @TaivoLinguist: to get some input. Nymf (talk) 13:45, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Indefinite semi-protection would be my suggestion.—Kww(talk) 17:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I agree. --Taivo (talk) 18:35, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Resident Evil: The Final Chapter is in post production!

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Maybe somebody can state it is completed.PeterMan844 (talk) 09:43, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Too much detail

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I really think that the Russian/Ukrainian section goes way too much into detail for comfortable reading. It should be shortened so that gets straight to the point because so much gets lost in translation with how long the section is. 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣cellsman 00:02, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much anonymous user!!! I wasn't totally sure what seemed off with it until you removed it. 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣cellsman (talk) 16:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

American

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I think this should be edited. Just for consistency. Many Americans who have moved overseas are referred to as American-etc. She was not born nor raised there, granted she is American by citizenship, it would be like referring to say Tim Matheson solely as a “British” actor, since he moved there and is now a British citizen. The fact that her ethinticity and upbringing were not American, should stand for something. I’m just saying American should not her her sole claimed ethinticity/nationality, even if just for consistency with other articles on Wikipedia.2001:8003:4028:AE00:DC9B:DCCB:2A4C:11EA (talk) 08:31, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I disagree. She was in fact raised in the United States, and furthermore Ukraine does not even allow for dual citizenship, making her nationality solely American. Although she was not born American, birthplace is not the criteria for inclusion in the lead. In fact, in WP:ethnicity which specifies Wikipedia guidelines on biographies, it is specifically stated that "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable. Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." Apoorva Iyer (talk) 12:17, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Also, consistency with other Wikipedia articles is not the criteria for making an edit on a page. It is first and foremost adherence to Wikipedia guidelines and whether or not that change is appropriate for that particular page. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

V filme o Junne dArc - ne"realyna". Ya ne o "krasote".

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No filym ne o boge. A kakoy-to sploshnoy scotnый двор .. все какие-то обкуренные ))) ..

Стал привыкать к жизни нынешней Америки. Ушло время. С жизнью. 176.59.209.110 (talk) 20:41, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Will made the film ..

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"Junna Buhlo" ?

P.S. "Pohmelie! .. ))) ?? ..176.59.212.85 (talk) 11:33, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Comma comma comma...

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Re: Personal life / Background: I refuse to believe that any spoken interview, or written interview translated from Russian, with Milla Jovovich used for source material here actually contains that many punctuation errors. rowley (talk) 01:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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Milla Jovovich is a ukranian actress. She moved to the U.S in 1994. her father is from Serbia and her mother is Russian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.71.233.66 (talk) 15:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

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In 2022, Mila Jovovich collaborated with WarGaming to be a special guest during the Christmas event in World of Tanks and is an in-game commander with voiceover. [1] BadCorps (talk) 19:49, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://wargaming.com/en/news/wot-arnold-schwarzenegger-milla-jovovich-2022/
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Height=5'11 180.191.232.156 (talk) 08:55, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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