Talk:Meals on Wheels

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Some parts of User:Doco's 20 April 2006 edit were substantially similar to sections of MOWAA's History page. (e.g. MOWAA: "The first American home-delivered meal program began in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in January of 1954." vs. Doco: "The first U.S. home-delivered meal programmes [sic] began in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in January of 1954.") I rewrote those parts. --Meals-on-Wheels of White Plains 18:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

About whether Meals on Wheels operations are "programs" or "schemes," "schemes" does not make sense, at least in American English. --Meals-on-Wheels of White Plains 18:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I just rewrote most of the article, because previous versions contained substantial factual errors. MOW Indianapolis pointed out some this below. Things that should still be added include History and MOW outside the U.S. --Meals-on-Wheels of White Plains 16:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

As of now, the pages name is Meals on Wheels. The article name seems like a Wandillized (from Willy on Wheels and vandalism) page. Just remember the Willy-style page move maneuver. --SuperDude 02:05, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Meals on Wheels, Inc. Indianapolis, Indiana, United States: The definition of "Meals on Wheels" currently given does not take nonprofit agencies into account. For example, Meals on Wheels, Inc., Indianapolis, (www.mealsonwheelsindy.org), receives no federal, state or local government funding, but is wholly supported by private donations and the United Way of Central Indiana. Meals on Wheels, Inc. uses more than 1,550 volunteers to deliver two meals to around 450 clients each weekday.

Other privately funded MOWs in the greater Indianapolis area include Meals on Wheels of Hancock County; Meals on Wheels of Tippecanoe County; Meals on Wheels, Manchester; Meals on Wheels of Hamilton County; and Shelby County Meals on Wheels, Inc.

Another distinction to be aware of is that in the case of Meals on Wheels, Inc., Indianapolis, meals are delivered not only to elderly, but also to homebound disabled individuals.

I guess this has the distinction of being one of the very few legitimate articles that end in "on Wheels". Are there any others? *Dan T.* 05:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

this is my new favorite article because it ends in "on wheels" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.37.221.55 (talk) 13:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

MOWAAF study on hunger

How is this section relevant to the article? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

The section on hunger is very relevant. The study cited in that section has shown that hunger is a serious problem in the United States, and that MOWAA is trying to address it. People are dying everyday, not just from actual starvation, but also from complications brought on by malnutrition. MOWAA's goal is that no one go hungry. I added the section titled "MOAFF Study on Hunger" because it's important for people to know the statistics and the importance of what this organization is doing. First Lady Michelle Obama has been supporting the program publicly since she was made aware of the study and its gravity. I don't work for MOWAA or MOWAAF, but I do volunteer with meal deliveries and much-needed contributions. I appreciate your question and hope I've answered it adequately. I would very much like for this section to remain in the article because it's important and something most Americans aren't aware of. Thank you, -Michael Jones 68.100.34.116 (talk) 18:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC

Hi. I'm not trying to be perverse, superior, holier-than-thou, arrogant or pompous. Never-the-less, I'm probably going to sound like I am, in which case I apologise, and advise that this is not my intention.

This article is about Meals on Wheels. Worldwide.

Yes, I agree that "hunger is a serious problem in the United States", and I agree that "MOWAA is trying to address it".

I agree with pretty much all of what you say. I agree that these things are important.

And so are Global Warming, AIDS, Civil War, Racism, Poverty, Hunger in the rest of the world, and dozens of other problems.

However, this article is about Meals on Wheels. Worldwide.

What have ANY of these issues got to do with an article about Meals on Wheels?

In other words: Yes, they are real issues; Yes, they are important; Etc.; Etc.

But how are they relevant?

By-the-way, you simply asserting "The section on hunger is very relevant", is simply not good enough.

I can assert: "I am the most important and powerful person in the world." However, I am fairly confident you would want me to supply some relevant supporting evidence before you paid any attention to such a claim.

Yes, what I say may be quite true. But even so, that doesn't make it relevant.

"I appreciate your question and hope I've answered it adequately." - No, sorry, I'm afraid you haven't.

"I would very much like for this section to remain in the article because it's important and something most Americans aren't aware of." - These are laudable goals which I'm happy to support. However, I'm not convinced that this article is the right place.

This article is about "Meals on Wheels", not about hunger, and certainly not about "Hunger in the elderly in America".

Therefore, as I've said, "How is this section relevant to the article?" Pdfpdf (talk) 14:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Again, I appreciate your questioning, and I'm not offended. If users didn't question content, there's no telling what would be published, relevant or not. I was probably vague in my response to you, and if so, I apologize. I included the Study on Hunger because it was commissioned by the Meals on Wheels Association Foundation of America itself. In the context of Meals on Wheels, it's important that people realize that meals aren't simply delivered as a luxury or convenience--- that folks are actually at risk of death (indeed, many have died), and MOWAA's primary mission is to eliminate this sad fact. With awareness of the gravity of the hunger situation, MOWAA will see an increase in funding, private contributions and volunteers to prepare and deliver meals, and the problem might therefore eventually be solved. My concern is that people who visit the Meals on Wheels article won't necessarily have a firm grasp of the gravity of Hunger in America and the fact that shut-ins are dying every day because they don't have access to basic nutrition. MOWAA's copyrighted slogan is "So no senior goes hungry," but as the study states, hunger and the remedy of Meals on Wheels extends to many other groups besides the elderly. It's all well and good to feed the needy here and there, where it's currently possible, but the Study on Hunger illustrates the staggering numbers of people (old and young) who are dying or at serious risk, and Meals on Meals will feed these people if the resources allow. The relevance to my inclusion is that Meals on Wheels might eventually solve this serious problem if people are made aware of the situation. If so many are dying or at risk due to malnutrition in the United States--- one of the richest countries in the world--- the study really suggests that hunger is everywhere, but that most of us who have food aren't aware of it. Meals on Wheels and hunger are intrically linked, in that those who receive meal deliveries would otherwise go hungry. MOWAFF commissioned the study because they wanted to address the findings via their misssion, and hopefully eliminate hunger in America. Since Meals on Wheels headquarters ordered the study, I believe it's important (and relevant) to Wikipedia's "Meals on Wheels" article. I sincerely appreciate your attention to this, and I hope you will concede that the section on the study is relevant. I respectfully ask that you not cite the section for deletion. I know you are being diligent and thoughtful, but I assure you that the study is an important one, and that if the public is made more aware of it via this article, lives will be saved. Please don't cite the section on the study for deletion; its presence there will undoubtedly save lives because MOWAA's works will no doubt expand as a result. As a volunteer, I have already witnessed expansion since the study was published. With the study referenced on Wikipedia, there will surely be more awareness. I hope I have done a better job this time of explaining the relevance and am grateful for the opportunity to have expanded on my original answer. Sincerely, -Michael Jones —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nova8109 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again.

First, the easy stuff:

• Please sign your postings with 4 tilde (i.e. ~~~~)
• You must have noticed that I removed the "relevance" template some time ago, right after I rearranged and reorganised stuff to provide some context for the section.
• It must be clear to you that I am not disputing that hunger in the US is an important problem.
• Never-the-less, with respect to the fact that this is an article about Meals on Wheels world wide, the way the article is currently set up, the link to a section about a study on hunger in the US is, at best, "tenuous".

Now the hard bit: (In my biassed opinion) What needs to happen is that the link needs to be clearer and more obvious. There are a lot of words in what you've written above, but most of them are about the importance of the hunger issue, which, from my point of view, is not in dispute. (Well, not with me, anyway.)

More needs to be added to the article to make the link clearer, and hence the relevance of the section obvious.

I think you may have hit on the way forward by mentioning the slogan "so no senior goes hungry". I think this slogan provides the basis for the link & hence relevance.

(e.g. thinking out loud:

fred: How is a section on "hunger in the US" relevant to an article on "Meals on Wheels world wide"?

bill: Well, it isn't directly relevant. However, MOWAA's slogan is "so no senior goes hungry".

fred: How are they going to achieve that?

bill: Well, a good place to start would be to understand the extent and nature of the problem, wouldn't it?

fred: Yeah, I guess so.

bill: So commissioning a study to investigate the problem would probably be a good idea, wouldn't it?

fred: Aaaahh. I get it.)

As a matter of academic reflection, I would note that, to me, it seems that MOWAA have a slightly different emphasis in their list of priorities to other MoW organisations. I'm wondering whether this is actually the case, and if so, why MOWAA have a primary emphasis on addressing hunger, whereas in other countries, (where, perhaps, other organisations (e.g. churches) address hunger), MoW have quite different sets of priorities. Interesting.

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:39, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

How is 1943 "following World War II?"

The article presently says "The first home delivery of a meal on wheels following World War II was made by the WVS in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England in 1943. " This is puzzling, since the war ended two years later. How can this be fixed so it makes sense? Was this the first meal on wheels delivery, ever? Was it the merely the first one in "," which seems pretty trivial. Perhaps it means "following the start of World War II." Edison (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Check the source. If unsourced, add a "sourced needed" tag or a "clarify" tag. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:51, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

The article says, before the statement I questioned, that some form of meals on wheels existed in England during the Blitz, which would mean it existed by 1941, making dubious the interpretation that "following World War II" meant "following the start of World War II." Edison (talk) 16:55, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

If there is no clarification and referencing, I will remove all statements about "Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England" in 1943. Edison (talk) 01:59, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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I have just added one of the Meals on Wheels programs in the United States under the section of Modern programmes, as it is a good example that reflected the contribution of Meals on Wheels to the older adults, especially during the crisis when food insecurity and physical isolation made it harder for seniors to get adequate resources.

Foodnet Meals on Wheels is an age-friendly organization in Tompkins County, with a mission to provide nutritious meals and healthcare services for older adults. In response to the COVID-19, Foodnet Meals on Wheels updated their precaution measurements to ensure food supply. An every-other-day schedule was applied to home food delivery, by which people received once a hot meal with a frozen meal for the other day. Nutrition services including nutrition counseling, assessment and education were conducted through telephone.

--Jeremyupupup (talk) 00:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)