Talk:Mahmud al-Kashgari

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Undue weight

The section on his work placed unnecessarily strong emphasis on the conflict between Muslims and Buddhists, and should really be trimmed, and it also needs to say something about his other works. Hzh (talk) 16:04, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Beshogur, before restoring this content again please add some sources that prove authorship of this poem, I have not found any research that supports Hansen's unexplained opinion. Clara Wiley (talk) 23:25, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I've read this book, you probably have no idea what you're talking about. Just use google books and you find tons of sources. here. If you ask the original text, that is not how wiki workds. So asking to restore. Beshogur (talk) 08:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

From [1]:

"summarized in a Turkic folk song ... recorded in Al-Kashgari's 12th century dictionary"

He recorded a Turkic folk song that was an oral traditions. That's not the same as Kashgari being the author. The difference between compiling oral and folk traditions and being the author of something is basic stuff that I studied in my first year of high school history, so you can keep the insulting comments too. Clara Wiley (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Deletion from "Work" section

I tried to deal with the mess Hzh referred to above by deleting four paragraphs from the "Work" section — along with the "tone" template put there last March.

The first three paragraphs of the passage I deleted were clearly trying desperately to be NPOV and, if they failed, they failed solely because the writing was so incoherent that you couldn't tell what the POV was supposed to be. Combing through the history, I found: These paragraphs are all that remains of a rant inserted in two giant slabs in 2015 by Milktaco, an account that has been banned indefinitely as a sockpuppet of another banned account and at least a dozen other sockpuppets that have splattered rants about Xinjiang all over the wiki for years.

The last paragraph with the blockquote in the middle is at least mostly coherent, but it also seems to be there only to make some political point about Xinjiang, and the relevance to al-Kashgari is minimal. I can imagine a much shorter version of this material (maybe a sentence or two) having a place in this article, if whoever wants it here can think of a way of making it clear what it says about al-Kashgari. 2604:3D09:A984:A600:805:33E1:B9C6:CF4 (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)