Talk:Louisa Hawkins Canby

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I have set up this page and hope that anyone interested in this remarkable woman will add information. I have tried to separate information about her from information about her husband, but this is difficult since most information about her comes from books and other materials about her husband and other people that she knew. Milesnfowler 21:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that one source, Max Heyman, makes a mistake in his biography of ERS Canby when he says that Lew Wallace wrote an article about Mrs. Canby for the New York Times in 1873. As I note in the article, the tribute was written by Mrs. Wallace, and though I do not note that it appeared in the Indianapolis daily, I leave out Heyman's claim that it appeared in the Times. Goes to show that even good sources make mistakes. Milesnfowler 16:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

1860 Navajo Campaign

Very interesting article. Heyman's book "A Prudent Soldier..." recounts the history of the 1860 campaign against the Navajos, where the US troops were commanded by ERS Canby. Has your research, by any chance, uncovered more information about this campaign? I'm researching an incident during the 1860 campaign, where a small group of Mormon missionaries heading for the Hopis were intercepted by a hostile band of Navajo men, and a young missionary (George A. Smith, Jr.) was killed. Several 19th century Mormon accounts allege that the Navajos were hostile because while the men were away, their village (allegedly "250" old men, women and children, plus "40,000" sheep) were "massacred" by US troops. I can't find such as massacre in Heyman's history. If there were at least rumors of a massacre at the time, might the compassionate Luisa Hawkins Canby have said something about it?

Krbeesley (talk) 17:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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Inline citations?

HI This is listed as an easy to edit article. However, I think someone would have to get to the original articles and tease out each reference. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 02:57, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Grammar Adjustments, etc.

Howdy,

I have made some grammar and syntax adjustments to this page for clarity and ease of reading. Probably the biggest change was referring to Edward and Mary by their first names, as is often done in pages for married couples who share a name to minimize confusion. Similarly, 'the Canby family' was used to refer to both Edward and his parents and Edward, Louisa, and Mary so that was adjusted. I also added some additional links to other Wikipedia pages. Please feel free to review.

I wonder if perhaps there is too much emphasis on the specifics of Edward's activities here. I didn't want to delete a significant amount of content so I left it alone, however, are chunks of writing that get deeply into the specifics of military movements and whatnot necessary? I would imagine that anyone interested in that would go to Edward's page.

I would personally suggest something like the following:

"In January 1862, the newly minted Brigadier General Sibley led a Confederate brigade into New Mexico Territory and began marching up the Rio Grande toward Colorado. Col. Canby was in charge of the defense of the entire territory, which included what is today the states of Arizona and New Mexico as well as the southern tip of Nevada and parts of modern day Colorado. He assigned to himself the command of Fort Craig, which, at that point, was the southernmost fort in the Confederates' line of march that had not yet been captured. While her husband fought Sibley in the pitched Battle of Valverde, Louisa awaited the outcome of the campaign at Santa Fe, the territorial capital. On March 2, the Confederates captured Albuquerque and took Santa Fe eight days later. The federal army and territorial government had evacuated the capital, burning or hiding any supplies they were unable to carry with them to Fort Union, northeast of Santa Fe."

To:

"In January 1862, the newly minted Brigadier General Sibley led a Confederate brigade into New Mexico Territory and began marching up the Rio Grande toward Colorado. Edward commanded Fort Craig, which was southernmost fort in the Confederates' line of march that was yet to be captured. While her husband fought Sibley in the pitched Battle of Valverde, Louisa awaited the outcome of the campaign in Santa Fe, the territorial capital. On March 2, the Confederates captured Albuquerque and took Santa Fe eight days later, burning or hiding any supplies that they were unable to carry with them as they evacuated to Fort Union, which was northeast of Santa Fe."

And:

Louisa, along with the wives and families of other Union officers, chose to remain in Santa Fe. They soon had misgivings due to the evacuation of territorial authorities, the growing presence of looters, and other criminal activity. The Confederate soldiers who entered Santa Fe on March 10, 1862 were surprised to find a welcoming committee consisting of the wives of Union officers led by the wife of Colonel Edward Canby. The Confederates subsequently established martial law and conducted a mostly fruitless search for hidden supplies. On March 29, 1862, Confederate forces returned to Santa Fe after a victory at Glorieta Pass. On their way to attack Fort Union, the Confederates met a force made up predominantly of inexperienced Colorado volunteers. While the Confederates had won a technical victory, a unit of about 500 Coloradans had gone behind Confederate lines and destroyed more than 70 wagons loaded with Confederate food and gear. Without sufficient provisions to lay siege to Fort Union, the rebels had no alternative but to retreat.

To:

Louisa, along with the wives and families of other Union officers, chose to remain in Santa Fe. They soon had misgivings due to the evacuation of territorial authorities, the growing presence of looters, and other criminal activity. The Confederate soldiers who entered Santa Fe on March 10, 1862 were surprised to find a welcoming committee consisting of the wives of Union officers led by Louisa. The Confederates subsequently established martial law and conducted a mostly fruitless search for hidden supplies. On March 29, 1862, Confederate forces returned to Santa Fe after a victory at Glorieta Pass. On their way to attack Fort Union, the Confederates met a force made up predominantly of about 500 Coloradans who ultimately destroyed more than 70 wagons loaded with Confederate food and gear. Without sufficient provisions to lay siege to Fort Union, the rebels had no alternative but to retreat.

Also edited wording/phrasing that described Louisa in terms that were relative to her husband, such as "Mrs.," and "His widow" to be more consistent with her role as the subject of this page.

Additionally, in-line citations would make this page more useful.

Great job, everyone! This was a very interesting read <3 Glamourpossum (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2024 (UTC)