Talk:Liverpool City (1906)

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This should not be merged with Liverpool City (rugby league) IMO, they were different clubs despite having the same name and playing the same sport (albeit in different eras).GordyB (talk) 16:14, 13 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Also oppose as they seem to be different, unrelated, entities. Mattlore (talk) 02:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 21 March 2015

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The result of the move request was: Move to Liverpool City (1906). This discussion became very confused and convoluted, but a few things are clear. There's a unanimous consensus that the present title isn't kosher, and a nearly-as-clear consensus that the proposed title Liverpool City (rugby league) isn't workable given the fact that Liverpool Stanley was also a rugby league team known as "Liverpool City" (it will redirect to the dab page). Of the various suggested options, Liverpool City (1906) seems to be the best supported. No prejudice against opening a new RM if someone thinks of a potentially better disambiguator, but it would probably be more productive if these two titles were ruled out. Cúchullain t/c 13:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)Reply



Liverpool City (1906) (rugby league)Liverpool City (rugby league) – standard naming convention – Abcmaxx (talk) 23:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Moved from RMTR speedy move

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@Abcmaxx and 65.94.43.89:

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Survey

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Support. By far the most sensible disambiguation, and bearing in mind that these clubs are both now of historic interest only there seems a good case for primary topic. I also note that this was the consensus at the appropriate WikiProject (link given by nom below). Andrewa (talk) 05:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
    • It fails WP:PRECISE since there have been two teams by this name, and this one is not the one with the most history at this name, (the other one has had 17 seasons at this name, while this one only has 1) So, it is not the proper target of this name -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
      • No, it doesn't fail WP:PRECISE, or not not on the evidence we have so far at least. Is this other club currently commonly referred to as Liverpool City? It seems unlikely. These clubs are both mainly of interest to those who would be aware of both of them, as I've said before. That's part of the reason that the current article on the other is named Liverpool Stanley although they had that name for only 16 seasons. Andrewa (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
        • Primary topic-ness does not apply to disambiguated titles. Therefore, all topics that exist on Wikipedia that can be called "Liverpool City" as rugby league are viable choices in targets, so yes, it does fail PRECISE. Wikipedia does not only cover the "now", hence this article on a 1906 club, if it only covered the "now", then there would be no 1906 article. The 1950/60's Liverpool City existed as Liverpool City in that era, and is also a past name, just like the 1906 entity. Neither exists anymore as Liverpool City, since one is defunct, and doesn't exist at all, and the other was renamed. But both exists in the past, so both are viable targets, so it is a PRECISE failure. We have redirects from past names because things can be referred to by old names, such as searching through old documents and looking on Wikipedia for information. An 18-year span using this name would seem to be more likely than the 1-season 1906 span, under those circumstance. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:24, 5 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose As neither team appear to be the primary topic, Liverpool City (rugby league) should be a disambiguation page for both articles. This page should be Moved to Liverpool City (1906 rugby league), Liverpool City (rugby league, 1906) or similar. Mattlore (talk) 19:45, 29 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Move to Liverpool City (rugby league, 1906), and have Liverpool City (rugby league) redirect to Liverpool City.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:59, 29 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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