Talk:List of bus routes in the Bronx

List all of the bus routes in the Bronx

The table should be expanded to include all the bus routes in the Bronx. The exclusion of the Q44, QBx, and the local Westchester routes does not make sense from the user (neither the user of Wikipedia, nor the user of the buses!) Jd2718 23:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

This is a list of all the routes. Since the routes with other prefixes have details on other pages, the reader is instead linked to the pages that cover them in detail. Otherwise we have the same details on two pages and there is a high risk of desyncing as routes change or people add historical information. --NE2 23:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

When changes occur, editors know to transfer the new information to multiple pages. It is an uneven process, for sure, but it happens on WP every day for hundreds of articles. This is not a reason to leave an article incomplete. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jd2718 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

You keep stating that this article is incomplete, but it is not (with the exception of not listing the "W" buses). It lists all buses that operate in the Bronx. --NE2 23:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

But the table is missing "bus routes in the Bronx." That makes it incomplete. Jd2718 23:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The article is more than the table. The article is a list of all routes in the Bronx (hence the name) plus a table of routes that begin with "Bx". --NE2 23:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the lists should include every route that sets foot into the borough's borders. So in this case, every route in (and those running to/from other brorughs/counties) The Bronx should be listed. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 23:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The list does include "every route that sets foot into the borough's borders". It refers the reader to other articles for details on some of the others. --NE2 00:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Any bus in the Bronx should be included. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 03:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Every bus in the Bronx is included. --NE2 03:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Dates of bustitution

• July 1, 1918: Fordham and Woodlawn Line (no buses)
• August 8, 1919: City Island Line (no buses)
• July 15, 1921: Randall Avenue Line (no buses)
• September 4, 1921: Jerome Avenue Line (no buses)
• September 8, 1921: part of Sedgwick Avenue Line (no buses)
• August 18, 1935: Willis Avenue Line north of Fordham (no buses)
• June 28, 1938: Dyre Avenue Line (no buses)
• August 17, 1940: Pelham Bay Park Line (Bx22)
• January 1, 1941: Morris Avenue Line (Bx25)
• August 5, 1941: Harlem Shuttle and Willis Avenue Line (Bx29)
• March 8, 1947: Sound View Avenue Line (Bx27)
• August 16, 1947: 149th Street Crosstown Line (Bx30)
• October 25, 1947: Ogden Avenue Line (Bx37), University Avenue Line (Bx38), and 180th Street Crosstown Line (Bx36)
• January 24, 1948: Bronx and Van Cortlandt Parks Crosstown Line (Bx20), and 207th Street Crosstown Line (Bx19)
• June 26, 1948: Bailey Avenue Line (Bx24), Sedgwick Avenue Line (Bx39?), Webster and White Plains Avenues Line (Bx41), and 163rd Street Crosstown Line (Bx34)
• July 10, 1948: Westchester Avenue Line (Bx42), St. Ann's Avenue Line (Bx32), 138th Street Crosstown Line (Bx33), and 167th Street Crosstown Line (Bx35)
• August 21, 1948: Boston Road Line (Bx26), Southern Boulevard Line (Bx31), Tremont Avenue Line (Bx40), and Williamsbridge Line (Bx28)

Here they are sorted by number:

• Bx19 207th Street Crosstown Line (1948)
• Bx20 Bronx and Van Cortlandt Parks Crosstown Line (1948)
• Bx22 Pelham Bay Park Line (1940)

The Bx22 seems to have been tacked onto an existing bus route, but that doesn't explain the Bx19 and Bx20.

• Bx24 Bailey Avenue Line (1948)
• Bx25 Morris Avenue Line (1941)
• Bx26 Boston Road Line (1948)
• Bx27 Sound View Avenue Line (1947)
• Bx28 Williamsbridge Line (1948)
• Bx29 Harlem Shuttle and Willis Avenue Line (1941)
• Bx30 149th Street Crosstown Line (1947)
• Bx31 Southern Boulevard Line (1948)
• Bx32 St. Ann's Avenue Line (1948)
• Bx33 138th Street Crosstown Line (1948)
• Bx34 163rd Street Crosstown Line (1948)
• Bx35 167th Street Crosstown Line (1948)
• Bx36 180th Street Crosstown Line (1947)
• Bx37 Ogden Avenue Line (1947)
• Bx38 University Avenue Line (1947)
• Bx39 Sedgwick Avenue Line (1948)
• Bx40 Tremont Avenue Line (1948)
• Bx41 Webster and White Plains Avenues Line (1948)
• Bx42 Westchester Avenue Line (1948)

It's possible that these were sorted by depot. --NE2 04:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Table of old and new numbers

old	route	new
Bx1	Concourse	Bx1
Bx2	Melrose-Concourse	Bx2
Bx3	Prospect-Crotona	part of Bx17
Bx4	Bainbridge-Katonah	Bx34
Bx5	Story-Bruckner	Bx5
Bx6	Gun Hill-Boston	Bx30
Bx7	Boston	part of W60/W61/W62
Bx8	Williamsbridge-Bronxwood	Bx8
Bx9	Eastchester	Bx31
Bx10	Broadway-Riverdale	Bx7
Bx11	181st-170th-Claremont	Bx11
Bx12	207th-Fordham-Pelham-Shore-City Island	part of Bx12/Bx29
Bx13	Castle Hill-White Plains	Bx22
Bx14	Edenwald-Boston	part of Bx16
Bx15	Jerome-Gun Hill	Bx28
Bx16	Bainbridge-233rd-Nereid	part of Bx16
Bx17	Bedford Park-Allerton	Bx25/Bx26
Bx18	Sedgwick-Macombs	Bx18
Bx19	Eastchester-Baychester	part of Bx16
Bx20	Southern-Kingsbridge-Broadway	Bx9
Bx21	Triboro	N/A
Bx22	Westchester-Country Club	Bx14
Bx23	Layton-Crosby	Bx23
Bx24	Bailey-Henry Hudson	Bx24 (Bx20 was created along part of this line)
Bx25	Morris-Jerome	Bx32
Bx26	Third-Boston-Morris Park	Bx21
Bx27	Westchester-Rosedale-Sound View	Bx27
Bx28	Tremont-White Plains-Gun Hill	part of Bx10/part of Bx39
Bx29	125th-Willis-Third	Bx15
Bx30	145th-149th	part of Bx19
Bx31	Southern	part of Bx19
Bx32	St. Ann's	part of Bx17
Bx33	135th-138th	Bx33
Bx34	155th-161st-163rd-Hunts Point	Bx6
Bx35	181st-167th-169th	Bx35
Bx36	181st-Tremont-180th-174th-White Plains	Bx36
Bx37	181st-Ogden	Bx13
Bx38	181st-University-Sedgwick	Bx3
Bx39	Sedgwick	became part of Bx18 in 1953
Bx40	Burnside-Tremont	Bx40/Bx42
Bx41	Third-Webster-White Plains	Bx41
Bx42	Westchester	Bx4
Bx43	Broadway and 230th-Yonkers	Yonkers Railroad Company Route 2 (changed 1952)
Bx44	Bainbridge and Gun Hill-Yonkers via Jerome Avenue (now Major Deegan Expressway)	N/A (eliminated by 1952)
Bx45	Third Avenue and 138th Street - 2nd Avenue and 125th Street	Bx15 (former Bx29) southbound (eliminated by 1947)
Bx46	Boston Road - Mount Vernon via Dyre Avenue and 5th Avenue	Westchester Street Transportation Route C (changed 1950)
Bx47	225th Street - Mount Vernon via White Plains Road	Westchester Street Transportation Route B (changed 1950)
Bx48	Dyre Avenue - New Rochelle via Boston Road	Westchester Street Transportation Route A (changed 1950)
Bx49	Parkchester-West Farms	N/A (eliminated in 1943)
Bx50 (later Bx49)	181st-Woodycrest	N/A
Bx52	Co-Op City-Shore	part of Bx12
Bx54	Story-White Plains-Metropolitan	Bx54 (later Bx5 shortened trips and part of Bx14)
Bx55	Third-Webster	Bx55
Bx56	Culture Bus Loop III	N/A
M100	?	Bx20, which also extended over part of the Bx24

Bx5B became Bx53 and went from Longwood (West Farms Road and Southern Boulevard) to Pugsley Avenue and Turnbull Avenue. See http://imgbox.com/U22tYBro#

Westchester Bee-Line

I have reinstated the W's in the route numbers. Within the City of New York, they are referred to with the "W" prefix, both by the MTA and The City of New York. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{Kiss me! • I'm irish!}} 21:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

• Remove the prefixed W, as to why... NYCTA now classifies as Bee Line route - #, NYCDOT classifies with a W prefix... So there are multiple conflicting information, we should used the Bee Line route information instead of NYCT and NYCDOT conflicting info. BWCNY 20:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

180th-181st Crosstown?

This was apparently the first of many Surface Transportation Corporation routes replacing the trolleys, started on June 24, 1941: [1] --NE2 20:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Revising bus tables

I'm proposing a standard format for route tables across all pages. You can read it here. Comments are appreciated. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 01:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Introductory Picture

As with most articles in the WP:NYCPT project dealing with buses, unless there is more than one livery per article for routes of one carrier (i.e., Select Bus Service, Bee Line's Shuttle routes, and GO Bus, there should only be one pic to introduce the article, with the route number clearly visible. I will be changing all of the articles to match this. This article as is already conforms.--AEMoreira042281 (talk) 05:39, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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