Talk:List of alumni of the Courtauld Institute of Art

Copyright problem removed

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While the content I've removed consisted only of a list of names and job titles, the source makes it clear that the list published is a selected list. It is thus subject to copyright (see Wikipedia:Copyright in lists). This content was originally added to Courtauld Institute of Art with this edit, and subsequently moved here, for good reason and entirely in good faith, by Ham II. Ham, I hope you didn't spend much time working on this. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:12, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Thanks‍—‌well spotted! All credit to you for following due process; that must have taken quite a bit of your time too. The list as it is now clearly has potential for expansion with names from the old list, but we can make our own selection, as possibly not everyone on the old list would meet WP's standards of notability. Ham II (talk) 12:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC) (edit: Aha! You've already started! :) )

I've just added back some of those that you had already blue-linked. Usually the best starting-point for one of these is the associated category (which perforce only contains blue-linked pages). I'll do that if I find a moment. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, I was doing that but ran into an edit conflict; rather than overwrite the division of names into categories, I simply aborted. However, I don't see that division as a particularly useful exercise, as so many people fit into more than one category – critic, writer, historian, academic, curator and museum director are complementary rather than exclusive fields of endeavour. I think it'd be more useful to have a few words of qualification after each name to explain why that person might be of interest to us, as was already the case when the list was in the main article. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:34, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I do find it useful to see at a glance which Courtauld alumni are museum directors, or critics, or novelists, and in general I like lists and navboxes to things differently from categories, which list articles in alphabetical order. I also don't think the divisions are too awkward, as I think people who are more than thing are usually most notable for a particular field of achievement. That said, however, I'm not too attached to this style and am willing to consider alphabetical order. Having looked at Category:Lists of people by university or college in London, I see that eight universities go for alphabetical order and seven for thematic groupings. The latter are generally the larger institutions, including the federal University of London. So I wouldn't have a problem with this being changed back to alphabetical order. Ham II (talk) 18:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring the alphabetical order. That has allowed me to add the other alumni in the relevant category. That'll be my last edit here, so please feel entirely free to organise things as you see fit from now on, and to disregard my comments above. By the way, the columns aren't really an improvement – some entries now occupy two lines instead of one (ordinary 13" MacBook Pro) – probably better to just let them flow down the page. But as I said, I'm done here (for now at least). Good work creating this, good luck with it. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Just click on Category?

Just to mention that this list has to be updated manually (I just added five new names from recently published articles). If you click on the Category (at foot of page) the list may be slightly different. CourtauldGill (talk) 10:59, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

March 2021

A discussion involves this page: Talk:Courtauld Institute of Art#List of... naming consistency. CapnZapp (talk) 10:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)