Talk:List of English words containing Q not followed by U/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Souq

The variant "souq" has been been added at some point during the recent editing spree, apparently with no additional supporting reference (beyond what was originally given for "suq"). "Souq" also appears earlier on this talk page in the list of words still to be sourced, along with the comment "Surely this can be found in some dictionary". Does anyone know whether "souq" was actually found in a dictionary, or did it creep in in error? Matt 01:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC).

The latter. I removed it at some point but it seems to have been readded. Soo 02:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I have removed it again. Interestingly, this is a real-life instance of exactly the problem I mentioned earlier. If individual sourcing was enforced then I would have been confident about removing "souq" (as no source is given), without relying on the good fortune that you remember what happened. If you feel like adding sources to the remaining instances of unsourced q-no-u words in the "other forms" column, then that would be great! There aren't a huge number. I've added a couple for variants that I know about... for the others I could just guess that the "main" references apply to all the variants, but this would be just a guess. You possibly have a better chance of remembering what the actual intention was for these? Matt 11:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC).

The end of qt

Gentlemen, I think we have resolved the qt dilemma, although mainly through fortune, and the question of how to handle words like this in general remains. Nevertheless, here's the Longman entry:

qt /kyooh 'tee/ n often cap Q&T, slang [quiet] - on the qt secretly; on the quiet.

This must be the thirtieth time I've read this entry, but earlier on I was reading the introduction to this dictionary (it's lengthy and quite dull, but I was trying to find out what its etymology abbrevations meant). Anyway, apparently what this entry means is that qt only ever appears as part of this phrase on the qt! Therefore it is disqualified because it's only ever part of a phrase, like coq au vin etc. So, it seems we are for now justified in removing it from the article.

Hooray! Matt 12:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC).

Of course, these questions remain open:

1. How do we handle another other words like this future?

I have no good answer to this. The best suggestion I have right now is to disallow "words marked as abbreviations" (i.e. marked in the dictionary as such), and hope that things like "tranq" which we do want to include are actually marked as "shortened forms", or "short for" or similar, not actually "abbreviations".Matt 12:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

2. Should be discounting words that are part of phrases?

I don't see any particular reason to do so per se. It almost seems as if we are actually using this rule as an excuse to get rid of words that we don't really feel are English (such as the "coq" in "coq au vin" before it was individually sourced). What would we do with "proper English" words that are only ever used in specific phrases? Let's take "umbrage" (only ever in "take umbrage") and "fro" (only ever in "to and fro") as examples. Now in fact both these words do actually appear individually in some dictionaries, but let's say hypothetically that they don't. Suppose all dictionaries only ever listed them as a part of the phrase. Would we want to include them (assuming they were q-no-u words, obviously)? My answer is "yes, we would", therefore the rule is bogus. Matt 12:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC).

That rule was in place from when I first started this article, and I basically lifted it straight from Scrabble. Most word games make a similar ruling. I expect the reason is that there's no easy way to check them in the dictionary. Say someone claims "au" is a word. You look under A and it's not there; you have to look under C, and find "coq au vin". No cross references or anything. This problem perhaps doesn't really face us (since we are, nominally, looking through the whole dictionary) but just explaining why it was there in the first place. Given that the only word we've lost because of it is "qt", I'm all for it. Soo 13:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

For the mean time though, all is peaceful... Soo 03:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Arabic alphabet

I think it pertinent to offer something regular. We should choose one system and stick to it:

• Only transcription
• Only arabic alphabet
• Arabic + transcription

Circeus 15:20, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I find the third option to be clearly preferable, but most dictionaries give only the transcription. Those that have only Arabic (or Chinese or Hebrew or whatever) could easily be transcribed by someone familiar with those writing systems, although the reverse conversion would be a bit more involved. In the mean time I think a hybrid solution is better than nothing. Perhaps one for "requests for translation"? Soo 17:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Others words?

The List of three-letter English words offers these: qin qis qwa qwy with no sources. Should they be added or, if these are known by contributors here, to be incorrect, could someone remove them from that article. Rmhermen 14:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no way to know that a word is non-existent, so I can't remove words from that article on that basis. Most of the "list of words" articles here are basically rubbish, having no sources or any apparent standard for inclusion. If you want to improve the 3-letter word article then please do but I have had enough of this and all related articles for now. This article does support the existence of qis, though, so that should stay. I've added the others to our "Can You Help?" list above, but I don't hold out much hope. Soo 17:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I see umiaq mentioned (type of inuit boat), it leads me to think there must be spellings of kajak using a q, too...

Coq au vin

Does this count? --MacRusgail 19:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

No, because it's only part of a phrase. (See above). Stephen Turner (Talk) 22:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I considered losing this constraint, since it seems somewhat pointless and arbitrary. I'm trying to leave this article alone for a bit, but maybe when I return, I'll change that around. Soo 10:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Qis qis bang bang

Qis - meaning unknown

Source: Phrontistery

Plenty of words, which probably don't count can be found under Maltese and Arabic units of measurement.--MacRusgail 23:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Isn't qis just the plural of qi? In which case, we already have it. (We don't list plurals explicitly unless they're irregular).

Maltese and Arabic units of measurement count if and only if they're listed in a major English dictionary.

Thanks for your investigations, by the way.

Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, he doesn't say what "qis" is/are, so I can't tell if it's a plural. I've searched for it, and about the closest I can get is "QIs", which an obvious abbreviation. --MacRusgail 17:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

According to OSW4, qis is exclusively the plural of qi. That's enough for me. Bobo. 06:14, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Qur'an should be in here

It seems to me that "words containing Q not followed by U" is a strange category. The more interesting category is, I think, "words where <qu> does not spell [k] or [kw]". That would allow Qur'an and qubit and the placenames Qum (alternate spelling for Qom) and Qumran (all bona fide, non-factitious listings in Wikipedia). --Macrakis 17:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I see your point, but this isn't a list of words where Q is not followed by an unpronounced U, or where a Q is not followed by a U that acts as a W; it's a list of words containing Q not followed by U. Even though the U in Qur'an doesn't perform the same function as the U in Quiet, it's still a Q followed by a U. HTH. Sarah crane 17:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to start a list of words where <qu> does not spell [k] or [kw]. However, this isn't it. Soo 17:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Macrakis that the scope of this list is missing the point a bit. Perhaps we should expand this to List of exceptions to qu- English spelling rule.--Pharos 21:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Err yeah, except that wouldn't include Qur'an either. Anyway, this is a list of Q-then-not-U words. If you want some other list, go start it. Soo 21:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Qabab should not be in here

The entry 'qabab' is based on an entry in the OED where it is shown as the 5th alternate spelling, based on a single quote mentioning alternate spellings (that is, not a natural usage in running text): "which can also appear in such forms as khubab, kibbab and qabab". What's more, in Arabic and Ottoman Turkish (and I would guess in the other Arabic-script languages), the word is written with a 'k' (ﻙ), not a 'q' (ﻕ). Web search finds lots of qabab, a Hebrew word, and Arabic place and personal names, but the only qabab=kebab is on some fantasy game's website. So it seems to me that this is simply an error. --Macrakis 17:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It's still in the OED, which is the requirement for inclusion here. If you think they were wrong to include it then you should take that up with them. See WP:OR. Soo 17:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Proper nouns

Would people kindly refrain from adding proper nouns to the list. As discussed in the intro, there are loads of them and they aren't interesting. Also, please stop changing the capitalisation of the entries. If it has a small letter in the entry then it means it had a small letter in the dictionary in which I looked it up. If Wikipedia's entry disagrees about capitalisation then so be it. Soo 10:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Qantas

I expected to find a discussion on this talk page about Qantas, but there doesn't seem to be one, so I'll start it. Qantas was originaly an accronym first used in 1921 (Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Service) but has since evolved into a word in its own right. The word is the short form of the official name of the Australian airline (Qantas Airways Ltd) and it is listed on the Australian Stock Exchange as such. The word also appears in the Macquarie Dictionary (2003 edition). I'd like to nominate it for inclusion in this list. -- Adz|talk 08:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

To quote the article, "The nouns in this list are common nouns." Qantas is not, it's a proper noun. Soo 09:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Muqarna

You might want to include Muqarna It's a form of decorative corbel found in Islamic architecture. It's referenced in the following dictionary of architecture - Curl, James Stevens. A Dictionary of Architecture and Landscape Architecture (Second ed.). Oxford University Press. pp. 880 pages. ISBN 0198606788. {{cite book}}: |format= requires |url= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameters: |month= and |chapterurl= (help)
--Mcginnly | Natter 08:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the citation, I'll add this to the "Can You Help?" I don't think that specialist dictionaries meet our criteria at the moment but it might turn up somewhere. Soo 14:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

FAQ

I don't spoze this would work?Cameron Nedland 00:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Acronyms are fairly unremarkable. There is a trend towards pronouncing it as one word ("fack") but no dictionary has picked up on this yet. Soo 18:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Okeedokee.Cameron Nedland 19:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ambiguous reference

according to at least one major dictionary (see References)

Hey, there are a ton of dictionaries in the reference section! -- Beland 05:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I guess this is supposed to be a many-to-many reference, saying that each entry in the table is present in at least one of the dictionaries. Maybe this is a confusing way to say it, or maybe I am just to sleepy to think clearly. -- Beland 05:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Al Qaeda

What about Al Qaeda?

The article specifically excludes "many place names and personal names, mostly originating from North Africa, the Middle East or China" that have not become naturalized into English as comon nouns (as opposed to names). AnonMoos 20:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Qaddish

Qaddish is NOT NOT NOT a prayer of mourning. In fact, only one of the six types of Kaddish is reserved for mourners, and one other is customarily recited by them. Additionally, only the Kaddish recited after a burial has any mention of the dead at all. It is generally only a prayer of praise associated with mourning.

proper nowns

do proper nowns count because if they do we can include Iraq.Djf2014 04:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

celery

I think this entire article ought to be removed or heavily edited. The title claims these are "English" words, but nearly all of them are unmodified non-English words. The "q with no u" spellings seem to be mostly the result of certain orthographic systems used for Arabic, Chinese, etc.

In any case, I think the purpose of this list is lost when apparently any word that has been used at one time in an English publication can be considered an "English" word (it's appearance in a dictionary notwithstanding).

For example: "qaf; Twenty-first letter of the Arabic alphabet." -- How can this be considered an English word under any conceivable circumstance?

The same argument applies to essentially all of the listed words. This article confuses legitimate loan words with non-English words that may occasionally be used in English writing.

Better examples of naturalised loanwords would be words like "typhoon", "tycoon", "parley", etc. The point is that a word should be demonstratively used in English as an English word. Normally when you write "burqa" or "burka" you would use italics.

--Matt Aufderheide

Yeah. Or not. Soo 08:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Obsolete words

Currently, the list includes several "obsolete" words in English: qhat, qheche, qhom, qhythsontyd, and rencq. I had edited them out: if they are obsolete, then they are no longer part of English. In the reversion from my edit Sebesta said, "Obsolete words are fine if they are marked in the text as obsolete."

In the previous versions, this article read, "Also, some dictionaries note that many words which are now spelt with a qu (such as square) could once have been spelt with a qw, but these archaic variants are not included here." I have now changed that line.

But this leaves us with (at least) two choices: should "obsolete" words be allowed in this list? I say no; what do you say? Chip Unicorn 22:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

The sentence you refer to was rather loosely phrased. The OED says that "many" words used to be spelt with a qw, and lists a few examples (which are given in the list.) There are presumably many more but we have no way of knowing which ones, so we couldn't make any claim to being comprehensive. Other obselete or archaic (the ODE distinguishes the two) words are fine, provided we can find citations. Soo 22:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Reason

Hi, the reason <qu> is used to write IPA /kw/ needs to be mentioned, IMHO. Old English scribes used <cw>, but the French, influenced by the Romans, used <qu>. After the Norman Conquest, <qu> stuck in England as well. --Kjoonlee 12:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

That is interesting, do you have a source? calr (talk) 13:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

French equivalent

The French-language equivalent of this article is up for deletion. French-speaking readers of this article may wish to contribute to that discussion. calr (talk) 13:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

It seems to have been deleted.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 18:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Bolded words?

Why are some of the words listed on this page written in bold italics, and some written in italics only? I've added the alternate spelling trank for tranq, but I wasn't sure if it should be bold or not. — λ (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Scrabble?

I'm sure it's been bought up, before, but isn't it somewhat un-encyclopediac to include tips for a board game in hear? --63.65.152.46 (talk) 18:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's a dictionary article, and all the references are to dictionaries. And there's a sister project called the wiktionary which has ever growing appendices of precisely stuff like this.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 11:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I've never liked the Scrabble tips section and would be happy to see it go. calr (talk) 02:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the entire article basically one big scrabble tip? The topic is about a simple lexical rule to give a list of words. I'm currently slowly copying it into the Wiktionary, and I don't see that any of it doesn't fit.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 18:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Qwilfish

Qwilfish has no "U" but is not on the list. It's a Pokémon Smurai -- Cerberus☃ 20:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

It's a proper noun. Please read the intro. calr (talk) 02:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

OK I just thought I could help Smurai -- Cerberus☃ 01:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

List of English words containing the substring “qu” not followed by a vowel letter

I want a list of English words containing the substring “qu” not followed by a vowel letter. --88.78.238.85 (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

If the "vowel letters" are AEIOUY, then you have qubit qubits qubyte qubytes qursh qurshes qurush qurushes umquhile (taken from a Scrabble word list). Equinox (talk) 05:22, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

{{primary}}

I understand that this is a sub-article of Q. Also, I do assume that this is a notable topic. But the fact is that the article completely fails to cite any secondary sources. I am sure this will be easy enough to fix, but in the meantime I must wonder how this in the complete and utter absence of any secondary source ever managed to become Featured. --dab (𒁳) 11:55, 6 July 2010 UTC

Words with Q but no U in English which are of Indo-European origin

Although the majority of words in the English language which involve a Q but not a U would be derived from either Semitic languages (for example, qadi or qat) or Sino-Tibetan languages (such as Qigong), it might be worth pointing out that there are some words in the English language which involve a Q but no U which actually derive from Indo-European languages. For example, the word "qintar" is a word meaning crayon which derives from the Indo-European language Persian, and the word "inqilab" comes from another Indo-European language, Urdu. These would naturally come from Indo-European languages which do not use the Latin alphabet. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Reference possibilities

Feel free to add, annotate, or utilize. Items used in article have been struck. -- Quiddity (talk) 00:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

• http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/page/105
• http://www.scrabble.org.au/words/ulessq.htm
• http://www.hasbro.com/scrabble/en_US/quList.cfm lists 33 words, taken from Everything Scrabble, by Joe Edley and John D. Williams.
  • Everything Scrabble: Third Edition. Joe Edley, John D. Williams Jr. 2009. "Chapter 6: Your Fourth-Grade Teacher, Mrs. Kleinfelder, Lied to you: You Can Have Words with a Q and No U". pages 56–58. ISBN 978-1416561750
• http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/03/regular/metro/levey/r_metro_levey031103.htm "John D. Williams, Jr.: QI is not good in North American SCRABBLE play, only the rest of the world." The Washington Post. March 11, 2003.
• http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06099/680097-51.stm "Scrabble players adjust as official dictionary adds ' za , 'qi ' and 3,300 others." April 09, 2006. Virginia Linn. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
• http://www.sunstar.com.ph/baguio/sports/luyk-playing-q – "'QI', the only two-letter word with 'Q' ... is the most frequently played word in scrabble tournaments"
• http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-que.htm
  • Which became the name for his book: http://www.worldwidewords.org/whyisq.htm ISBN 1846141842 review: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/22/michael-quinion-reviewed
• http://www.word-buff.com/Q-without-U.html claims 84 words total, and references Round 13 of the 2009 World Scrabble Championships

Candidates for inclusion in the list

The list makes it very clear that it only contains word that have already appeared in an English-language dictionary. Therefore it's not OK to add new entries without a reference that points to such a dictionary, and I am creating a second list here for words that have been added without reference. If you know a word that you think might qualify, but you can't prove it with a reference, please add it here, not on the article page.

I also want to remind everybody that all cells in the table must be verifiable. Do not add a meaning, "other form" or etymology that does not appear in the same dictionary that proves that a word belongs on the list. If there are several such dictionaries and they don't all support all the claims, indicate which one you used. If you really want to add information from a reliable source that is not a dictionary, use footnotes in the normal way. If that happens we may have to rethink the way we indicate sources in this article. Hans Adler 08:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Word	Meaning	Sources	Other forms	Etymology
bathqol	A divine revelation given audibly		Also written "Bath Kol"	Mishnaic Hebrew בַּת קוֹל
bawwaqe	An Arabian trumpet			Arabic
qoppa	The nineteenth letter of the ancient Greek alphabet		Generally written koppa	Greek Ϟ

Qittaus

I removed it - it smells fake to me. Feel free to return it if a source can be found. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

This is a load of rubbish

These words may be used within the English language, but they aren't actually English words.

Therefore, the title is misleading. 81.129.213.0 (talk) 18:47, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree. We may as well call the page Non-English words familiar to certain English speakers. And where's the list of English words not written in the Roman alphabet? How on Earth did this become a featured list?
Ulmanor (talk) 17:40, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

In an attempt to take the question seriously, here is the most recent featured list discussion for this list, when it was nominated for removal last October. The consensus was that it's well-cited, encyclopedic, and generally of good quality. The discussion also mentioned which sources of words were used, in case that's something you might be interested in. Waitak (talk) 18:10, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Non-nouns and non-loanwords

The article lead suggests the list contains only 4 non-nouns and only 5 non-loanwords. Given that there are so few of these, can they please be added to the article lead. Something like, "67 of the 71 words in this list are nouns (the exceptions being: querty, two, three, four), and 66 of the 71 would generally be considered loanwords (the exceptions being: one, two, three, four, five)." HairyWombat 06:22, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments to address before WP:TFL

Comments: Looks basically good, but needs a little work to make it ready for the main page.

• Images need ALT-text.
• The intro uses some vagueness ("almost all", "most", "many",...) which could possibly be fixed (at least partially) without damaging the flow of the prose.
• "Almost all the words in this list are nouns..." and "Only common nouns are included in the list..." could be considered contradictory. (I know what is meant, but maybe it could be reworded.)
• Empty table cells should be filled with a hyphen.
• The treatment of variant forms seems inconsistent in the table. E.g. qadi (main entry), qazi (with entry referring to qadi), qaadee (only mentioned in the "other forms" column under qadi, i.e. without its own entry unlike qaadee). Many more examples of this inconsistency exist.
• Inconsistency in the use of foreign language and in the use of transcriptions or not in the "Etymology" column. (compare "buqsha" and "faqir" and "suq", but many more examples exist).
• How about words with double "qq" (e.g. Zaqqum). The first "q" is not followed by a "u". Should those words be listed in the table?
• Some languages are linked twice in the table, some once. AFAIK, each row should stand on its own, so all languages should be linked. Same for some other words, such as "Muslim".
• Inqilab links to a documentary film while the list says: "A revolution in India or Pakistan"
• The Muqaddam article does not mention Bangladesh, while the list says: "A Bangladeshi headman"
• Qanun links to laws while the list says: "A type of harp."
• "qindar" is linked to Albanian lek but should probably be linked to qindarka instead.
• "souq" is mentioned in the image caption but not in the table.
• "Quinion, Michael (2009). Why is Q Always Followed by U? Word-perfect Answers to the Most-asked Questions about Language" needs publisher information.
• Article uses both "Retrieved" and "Last accessed". One or the other should be used.
• Dictionaries in the "Notes" section could have more (and more consistent) information such as publisher, year and edition.
• Is the list complete (for the given set of dictionaries)?

bamse (talk) 13:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I have added alt text to all the images, removed the vagueness in the introduction, reworded the seemingly contradictory sentences for clarity, removed duplicate entries based on alternate spellings, linked all instances of languages and other similar cultural terms in the table, removed the inapplicable link to Inqilab, switched the Qanun link to Kanun (instrument), switched the Albanian lek link to Qindarka, mentioned "souq" in the table, added publisher information to "Why is Q Always Followed by U?," switched all instances of "Last accessed" to "Retrieved," and added more, and more consistent, information to the dictionaries in the "Notes" section. Is there a guideline that requires that empty table cells be filled with hypens? If not, I think the cells look better without hyphens. Zaqqum is a proper noun and is therefore not included in the table. The Muqaddam does not mention Bangladesh directly, but it does discuss Bengal, which is partially in Bangladesh. There is no simple way of determining whether or not the list is complete for the given set of dictionaries. Neelix (talk) 20:03, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

The word "talaq"

The article lists the Scrabble words in North America which are q but no u which are allowed in Scrabble, but it seems to have omitted the word "talaq". This word would be acceptable in the United Kingdom as a word with a q but no u - I have played in in Scrabble, and it is listed in a book called "Official Scrabble Lists". ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done Someone's added it. Equinox (talk) 05:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

qwerty

Qwerty is an acronym, not a word. Just because we as a lazy general society have taken to treating acronyms like they are words does not make them words. SCUBA and NASA come to mind. The only words on the list that have made there way into any amount of English usage are burqa and sheqel. And sheqel is generally anglicized into sheckel. All in all, I see absolutely no utility in the article.Gtwfan52 (talk) 14:13, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Acronyms, especially ones where the individual letters are not pronounced, are words. "Laser" may have been originally an initialism, but has surely passed into common usage as a common noun, the same as "scuba", "radar" and, yes "qwerty". So, in short, there's no validity to your argument. oknazevad (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Uh, what's it an acronym for? Either spell it out long hand or it's not an acronym. Cue double-u e ar ti wy would be acronymed CDEATW ! Good point about laser. English is a living language and it can be a word simple as that. Here's a wordnik entry https://www.wordnik.com/words/qwerty 68.58.241.43 (talk) 17:12, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Twenty additional words

The book The Insomniac's Dictionary: The Last Word on the Odd Word (ISBN 0-8041-0414-X), pages 137–140, has a list of English words containing a Q not directly followed by a U, which the author Paul Hellweg gathered from various sources. In that list I found 20 words not included in the Wikipedia article "List of English words containing Q not followed by U" (permanent link here). (The book lists them all with initial capitals, as I have done here.)

• Bathqol: A divine revelation given audibly
• Bawwaqe: An Arabian trumpet
• Cinqasept: A short visit to one's lover (literally from 5 to 7 P.M.)
• Fuqaha: Plural of faqih
• Huqqa: A water pipe for smoking tobacco, etc.
• Paq: A large rodent of Central and South America
• Qaneh: A Hebrew measurement equivalent to 10.25 feet
• Qantar: Any of various units of weight (used in different Mediterranean countries)
• Qasab: An ancient Arabian measurement equivalent to 12.6 feet
• Qasaba: An ancient Arabian measurement of area
• Qazaq: A bright-colored wool rug (woven by nomads of the Caucasus)
• Qcepo: A type of parasitic infection
• Qobar: A dry fog of the upper Nile
• Qvint (qvintin): A Danish measurement of weight
• Riqq: An Egyptian tambourine
• Shoq: An East Indian tree
• Shurqee: A southeasterly wind of the Persian Gulf
• Trinq: A toast (used in Rabelais' Pantagruel)
• Zaqqum: A tree with bitter fruit (mentioned in the Koran)
• Zindiq: An Islamic religious heretic

The book comments that "Zaqqum" has both a Q directly followed by a U, and a Q not directly followed by a U.
(Also, the Wikipedia article lists some words which are not listed in the book.)
(I hope that this post is within fair use, in accord with copyright rules.)
—Wavelength (talk) 16:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks for your research and assistance! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

What of the Chinese Qing dynasty? 2.125.51.7 (talk) 21:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Qin

"Qin" links to the article "guqin", which also mentions "huqin", "yangqin", and "qixianqin". Should these be included? Joefromrandb (talk) 01:09, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Two more

Araq; a Syrian anis drink, and araqi; a Sudanese date-liquor. Joefromrandb (talk) 05:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

And another: umqombothi; an African malt-beverage. Joefromrandb (talk) 09:49, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

And qero (see Kero), an Inca drinking-cup. 86.164.246.89 (talk) 03:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

And "qalam", a pen used for Islamic calligraphy. For a featured list, this page doesn't seem to be monitored much. Joefromrandb (talk) 03:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

And "qoppa", the archaic Greek letter (often written koppa). Double sharp (talk) 09:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Katajjaq‎ is Inuit throat singing. 86.159.197.48 (talk) 16:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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"Qwerty" said to have Q not followed by "u or a vowel."

In primary school I was taught that the English vowels are "a, e, i, o, u and sometimes w." We were then told about cwms. David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 07:53, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Whether a letter is a vowel is somewhat contextual. (Consider the case of y, which may be phonemically transcribed as the consonant /j/, in yacht for example, or as the vowel /ɪ/, as in myth.) Qwerty is a strange case because of its bizarre spelling, but you'd transcribe it /w/ and therefore it seems to be consonantal. Equinox ◑ 23:58, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Agreed, HOWEVER: in the vast majority of words with 'qu' the U would also be transcribed as /w/, and would therefore seem to be continental. So it's not entirely correct to claim that the W in QWERTY is a consonant but the U in, say. quest, quark, etc is a vowel, when they are in fact the exact same phoneme. Firejuggler86 (talk) 02:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

(Also, vocalic w in English is hugely rare. Off the top of my head, I can only think of cwm, twp and crwth, which are all very obvious Welsh loans.) Equinox ◑ 00:04, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

See wikt:Category:English words with vocalic W. —Wavelength (talk) 00:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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