Talk:Lionel Fanthorpe

Output

Lionel is unashamed of his huge output - indeed, at the 2006 Discworld convention he said, "I am to great literature, what a tupp'ny upright is to the Kama Sutra"

Until he quotes this in a verifiable form, it will have to (sadly) remain on the Talk page

chrisboote 16:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Achievements?

While working for Badger Books, Fanthorpe wrote "Galaxy 666" under the pseudonym Pel Toro which is described by many as "the worst science fiction book ever written." ( https://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2014/09/a-podcast-im-looking-forward-to-is-based-on-the-worst-novel-ever-published-galaxy-666-by-pel-torro/ ) If you don't believe that reference, do a Google search, you will find many others. Outside of the UK, this is probably the only thing most people know about Lionel Fanthorpe. Should it not be included here?

Is Achievements really a preferable term to use? Perhaps Accomplishments would fit better?

--80.216.218.247 (talk) 15:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

He is a horrible, but typical, example of the 'auto-didact'. Those who teach themselves end up with a lot of random facts which they cannot properly correlate and exploit because they always lacked the guidance of a tutor or teacher. They and their works then become the very antithesis of 'learning'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.25.178 (talk) 20:50, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

It seems to me that he has exploited his acquired knowledge rather well given his circumstances, having become an extensively published author, frequent TV presenter and a successful headmaster in the UK's State sector. That his writing interests lie (apart from alongside the tongue which is clearly often in his cheek) in areas which 81.132.25.178 distains does not make him in any way "horrible." FWIW I can also declare first hand knowledge that he is in person a pleasant and interesting conversationalist. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.12.94.189 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Priest

What does the Church of England think of this turbulent priest? Is he a practising priest? Does he have a parish, or has he had one in the past? What do/did his parishioners make of him? Credulity (talk) 19:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

It appears that he is a non-stipendiary minister, so is not paid and does not have a parish. There are clearly different opinions on how seriously non-stipendiary ministers should regard their vocation, and how the church should regard them - here is one view. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:18, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that response! If you read it somewhere, it would be great if you could add the information with a source to the article. Even better would be to hear about his early career and how he got into the ministry. I've added the piece you link to to the article on non-stipendiary priests, and I hope that article will be expanded one day so I can learn more about the place of NSMs in the Church of England. Credulity (talk) 15:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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Peacocking

In particular, but there are more problems: "the novels are noteworthy for"... "The stories also demonstrate the author's wide knowledge of Fortean subjects"...

The entire "Writing" section feels biased. Unfortunately I'm not sure how best to explain or tag it but the whole section - maybe the whole article - feels more like a man writing out what he perceives to be his own accomplishments with a level of specificity (some unsourced) that might be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. I don't think Mr. Fanthorpe doesn't meet the notoriety standard but the article needs to be cut down a bit to significant events and works, and probably needs to see a tone/bias shift as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercury1964 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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