Talk:Lidl–Trek (men's team)

Team name

Now, the current name of this article is "Leopard True Racing", but that is not the official name, and only speculation because of a not yet functional website. The name for this team in the press is "Luxembourg Pro Cycling Project" ([1]). I therefore change the name of this article to this name. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 20:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The team's official name is Team Leopard, to which I have moved the article. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 10:54, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

The team have denied they will be called team leopard. ([2]) The page really should be Luxembourg Pro Cycling project as that is the name they are registered with the uci with ([3]). 90.195.108.130 (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Do we doubt the veracity of Cycling News? (if we do, pretty much every WP:CYC article is in serious trouble) Do we think Fuglsang was just plain lying? If not....I'm not seeing what the problem is. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 02:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

And read that article more clearly. Nygaard denies that "Leopard True Racing" will be the team's name. This is not the name that Fuglsang gave in his Cycling News interview, and it, separately, was rumored (and nothing more than rumored) as a team name for some weeks. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 02:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

CyclingNews isn't perfect, no - take my point elsewhere that CN refers to the word ProTeam as a new designation when it has been in the rules for several years. We should take the name that is on the UCI website, which is Luxembourg Pro Cycling Project. Hopefully they will actually come out with their unambiguous name soon though. Severo^TC 09:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

They're not perfect, no, but they're usually quite reliable (though they have stopped using it in their other articles). If you want to move it back to Luxembourg Pro Cycling Project, I won't move it back to Team Leopard (until Jan 6 or whatever when it's announced as the name). I disagree with such a move, but I'm clearly outnumbered. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 00:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Consider this tweet from Tom Stamsnijder. It's very likely that Nygaard was just upset that Fuglsang spilled the beans. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 09:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Team Name is "Leopard-Trek". Owning company is Leopard true racing, Name registered with the UCI is the Luxembourg pro cycling project. Name should now be changed to leopard-trek but I think a mention that the uci registered name is Lux etc should be in the page somewere. It really should have been lux pro cycling project (the uci registered name) all along, rather than people changing it backwards and forwards based on an unsubstantiated rumour. Is wikipedia really basing information on rider mumblings and twitter? 90.195.108.18 (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

A reliable source reported the team's name based on an interview conducted with one of its members. If that's an "unsubstantiated rumour" then I'll be fit to be tied. I would never presume to use a tweet alone as a source for something, though do consider that official twitter accounts are permitted in external links of bio pages. And unless I'm waayyy off, the UCI does have Team Leopard-Trek as this team's name. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 19:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

to be fair, the UCI only changed that after the team launch, they were team luxembourg till then. Anyway, its all sorted now. (and the team kit is still awful) 90.195.108.18 (talk) 12:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Team Riders

As far as I know, Laurent Didier doesn't join the team but continues to ride for Team Saxo Bank. 25 Riders will ride for the team, not 26. --Neo1988 —Preceding undated comment added 08:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC).

LEOPARD TREK ?

Apparently the team has sent a politely worded very silly letter to various media sources, asking that the name be presented as just that. No "Team" in front of it, no hyphen, and yes, in all caps (it also requests the pronunciation LAY-oh-pard Trek. Include?). Which, if any, will we follow? The article and the {{ct}} can be easily moved. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 03:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

"Leopard Trek" is OK with me Racklever (talk) 08:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Not capitals. The rest I don't care about. Severo^TC 09:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

"Leopard Trek" would seem sensible as a working assumption, while we keep an eye on reliable secondary sources to see whether that is what is widely adopted. Thanks to the ct template, changes will be reasonably easy if a different COMMONNAME arises. Kevin McE (talk) 10:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

So do we move the article to "Leopard Trek" then? As far as sources, so far they've been about 50/50 on the "Team" prefix, but the hyphen seems pretty common. We'll see if it continues to be so. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 20:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, They don't agree even internally – on just the front page of cyclingnews.com, we find an instance of "Leopard Trek", an instance of "LEOPARD TREK", and an instance of "Leopard-Trek". Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 20:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

New team name for 2012

Should this page be moved to RadioShack-Nissan-Trek or RadioShack-Nissan ? -- Racklever (talk) 09:50, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done --Racklever (talk) 10:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Think technicaly the page should be radioshack nissan. The UCI are being pretty uppity about how the name is termed, and they want it as two names only. do we follow the governing body or the team [ref]http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/10615/UCI-to-prevent-inclusion-of-Trek-name-in-RadioShack-Nissan-team-title.aspx[/ref]90.193.192.72 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC).

We are currently using the common name not the official name. -- Racklever (talk) 17:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

It seems unclear as to what is the common name: usage was initially very split, but seems to be settling around the 2 sponsor name. UCI/CQ/Cycling News/Velonation/Steephill/velonews/bicicling.com all seem to prefer RadioShack Nissan, as will any race organiser under the authority of the UCI (hyphenation and mid-word capitalisation varies): the more informal pezcycling and podiumcafe use simply Radioshack; what major cycling source are you seeing that habitually uses RadioShack-Nissan-Trek? Kevin McE (talk) 10:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

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