Talk:Lew (locomotive)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Lew after 1936

Sold out of service from the Southern Railway in November 1935, Lew worked the demolition trains for a few months after the auction sale, then left on the SS Sabor destined for South America in 1936.

That is the last thing that is KNOWN about the loco.

Whilst there have been various interpretations, rumours and conjecture about possible destinations and the current location or eventual fate of the loco leading back at least until the 1960s, nothing has been confirmed, and the source of the majority of these rumours is at best obscure. On that basis, they do not really have a place in Wikipedia, although if the sources at least can be identified, that might be useful. Before adding any such "details" please discuss them m here... Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Bradley's 1975 book was published by the RCTS, whose publications are generally considered to be reliable sources. He states "On 15 November 1935 an auction of the various assets was held ... Prior to the sale, the track from Lynton to milepost 15+1⁄2 was lifted by the Southern Railway using ... Lew ... but the remainder of the line was removed by S. Castle & Co. of Plymouth with the assistance of Lew ... it was not completed to Pilton until mid-1936 when Lew was given heavy repairs before being shipped from Swansea to Permambuco, Brazil for service on a coffee plantation near Sao Louis. Scrapping was reported in February 1957, although it is thought to have lain derelict for several years." (Bradley 1975, pp. 85-86) --Redrose64 (talk) 17:45, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Bradley does say that, but his source is likely to be Brown, Prideau and Radcliffe, from 1964 - the earlier Catchpole didn't mention anything about coffee, and if that had been known the destination, he would surely have mentioned it. Also, I understand coffee in Brazil in 1936 was in glut, and prices were therefore very low (to the extent that crops were being burnt) so the need for a steam loco may have been difficult to justify. There is evidence that Lew was never actually unloaded at Pernambuco (or at least, never left the docks) but instead stayed onboard and was taken further North. There is also no historical record of Lew undertaking "Heavy repairs" prior to sailing. There is so much uncertainty among the rumour and conjection (I have even heard that Lew was spotted in Spain!), that I think it should probably all be excluded from wikipedia.

My belief is that Bradley wrote the article on the L&B only as something of an afterthought and to complete his work on the Southern Railway, and that as a result, it was perhaps not as well researched as some of his other work. Lynbarn (talk) 14:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Resurrecting this discussion after 12 years

With the warning comment in the text in place, and as it's a subject of controversy I'm not going to make a change about Lew's fate without discussion, but having just read the releavnt section of Bradley's book, I propose the following addition:

According to one source, Lew was derelict for several years, and finally scrapped in February 1957.<ref>{{cite book |last=Bradley |first=D.L. |title=Locomotives of the Southern Railway: Part 1 |date=October 1975 |publisher=[[Railway Correspondence and Travel Society|RCTS]] |location=London |isbn=0-901115-30-4 |page=85-86 }}</ref>

Any thoughts? — Voice of Clam 20:33, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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