Talk:Lake Okeechobee
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Fix Dates
editAs of 5/25/09, under the section Hurricanes, it says: "In 1934 the Great Miami Hurricane hit the Lake Okeechobee area, killing approximately 300 people. Two years later in 1928, . . . ."
Shark River
editWhere is the Shark River? I can't find it on my Delorme atlas.
- It is one of the flow channels of the Everglades. There is a Natl. Park interp. center there, so it is well known - Marshman 04:00, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- DeLorme Page 117, C3, and Page 120, B1 - Aerobird 14:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- The Shark_River_(Florida) is further south near the south end of the Everglades. The Shark river takes its water from the Shark River Slough which is one of the main flow channels (as mentioned by Marshman) in the Everglades, and takes its name from the river it flows into. One of the entrances into Everglades National Park, on the Tamiami Trail is known as the Shark Valley entrance as it goes out into this slough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aapold (talk • contribs) 20:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Florida Trail
editThis section was cleaned up after some discussion on this talk page.
Third-largest lake?
editIt seems that the Great Salt Lake is larger than Lake Okeechobee. [1] Should this article be changed to "fourth-largest lake", or "third-largest freshwater lake"? —Bkell 17:32, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
- I'd say you are right - Marshman 04:10, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
I think the area of the lake is incorrect by a decimal place. The article currently says that its area is over 4,000 square miles, that can not be right. It must be around 400 and 500 square miles. Can someone fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.94.204.9 (talk) 10:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Death Count
editThanks for making the changes in numbers of persons killed so clear. The previous revision made simply by changing a number was not acceptable only because there was no way to verify it was not just a vandalization of the article's original text. Of course, citing sources should have been in there from the beginning, but your rewriteg now brings the text up to a high standard and allows the reader some opportunity to verify elsewhere if desired - Marshman 19:06, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Pronounciation
editThe pronounciation of the lake's name should be provided. 69.137.220.238 01:17, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- "oh key chobe e" - now if someone would convert that to a proper pronunciation. Thepcnerd 02:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
"oh ka cho bee" is another possible pronunciation.
Was this the lake mentioned in The X-Files TV show?
editI am wondering if this is the lake mentioned in the FOX TV show The X-Files. --Emana 01:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Yes it was mentioned in Episod 3 of Season 1 "Conduit as the location of the abduction of a teenage girl. It was also referred to as an UFO hotspot in the episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.29.160.175 (talk) 18:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
WRONG!!!! First of all, Conduit is Episode 4 of Season 1. Second of all, the Lake in the Episode is Lake Okoboji in Sioux City, Iowa. Shame on you Wikipedia. A friend and fellow x-files fanatic is moving near Lake Okeechobee and this post got me so excited I decided to re watch the episode only to be hugely disappointed! [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.4.251 (talk) 01:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
References
Wildlife
editWhat lives in the lake? Fish? Reptiles? How polluted is the lake?
Many fish live in the lake such as Bluegill, Largemouth Bass and Crappie. The American Alligator is very common. A lot of birds live around the lake as well including the Great Blue Heron, Bald Eagle, Osprey and Turkey Vulture. Aapold (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Copyvio
editRemoved the history section as a probable copyvio. [2] -anon
- Hey ass, how about you bring it up on the talk page before removing large chunks of content? I put that content there and the material is public domain. Eli lilly 17:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- I thought copyvios were supposed to be removed first, and discussed later. In any case, why do you think the material is public domain? -anon
- Where did you get the "remove first, discuss later" idea? The wikipedia copyrights page clearly indicates the steps that should be taken and none of them are along the lines of the action you took. I contacted the SFWMD prior to posting the content to ensure that it is in the public domain and the material was listed with the necessary citation and link as recommended in the wikipedia copyright guidelines. However, I am not going to get into an edit war, so I will not add the content back again. Eli lilly 23:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
fish?
editAre there fish?
ya it is a lake after all ...
notes
editA lot of birds live around the lake. I've seen Anhinga along it so they must find fish to eat.
The statement "Three recent hurricanes, Hurricane Frances, Hurricane Jeanne and Hurricane Wilma, had no major adverse effects on communities surrounding Lake Okeechobee." is false, they had a major adverse effect on the communities, Pahokee, South Bay, etc. had extensive structural damage, loss of power, infrastructure, etc.... What it should read is that the lake did not overflow the dike during these storms.
There is some discussion on whether to classify Lake Michigan and Lake Huron as one lake Lake Michigan-Huron, as they are the same lake hydrologically (same level, connection is via 5-mile wide straight, etc). If this is done, the advantage for Lake Okeechobee is that the new larger "Michigan-Huron" will not be entirely inside the United States, making Lake Okeechobee the largest freshwater lake entirely inside the united states. Hydrologically speaking. (of course if you go by Volume, its shallowness would probably place it way behind many other lakes)...
drought
editIts because we're converting to Africa's weather pattern.[3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.41.155.8 (talk) 12:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Max and Average depth
editI think that the max and average depth should be changed considering that the lake has been drained so that the army corps of engineers work on restoring the dike. I will leave it up to ya'll since im new to editing pages and don't want to screw stuff up - RareLine (talk) 17:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I think max and average depth should be revisited. 12 feet is far lower than maximum. This chart: http://w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/plots/okehp.pdf from the US Army Corps of Engineers reports recently the level has been nearly 16 feet. At the moment, the level is almost 14 feet averaged to over 13 feet. -- Synthetoonz 14:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC) "Lake level" is from sea level, not lake bottom! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6C4:204:BEBC:31AD:5640:8247:935D (talk) 14:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Date of formation
editI don't know the geological timescale of the Florida peninsula, but the "6,000 years ago when the ocean waters receded" timeline seems odd since the Everglades page says that human habitation in the area dates back 15,000 years. the 6,000 year date sounds like a young-earth creationist position to me, not a scientific or geological perspective. Would someone care to correct this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.111.236.135 (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
"Relatively Shallow"
editIt seems severely understated to describe a lake with a Maximum depth of 12 feet and an Average depth of 9 feet as big as Okeechobee as "Relatively shallow". This language needs to be revised. HaroldWilson'sWar (talk) 02:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
On Nov.2 is 17.00 feet in Okeechobee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.106.81.129 (talk) 01:21, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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Dike threatened by Hurricane Irma
editGovernor Scott stated on CNN, Sept 8 2017, that he had been assured that the southern dike, Herbert Hoover Dike, was not at risk with no discussion of the "what if" scenario should the dike fail. This threat need better coverage in the article for proper risk assessment. Also, the source for the assurances should be a part of the record. It may have been Haggerty, but need sourcing before adding to article. Surely, there is an engineering report available.--Wikipietime (talk) 13:48, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Monkey Box
editMonkey Box, FL redirects here, but it is not mentioned in the article. Koro Neil (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Adding a Limnology Section
editI am in the early stages of creating a Limnology section for this page. I am still compiling sources that I will use but so far have collected these:
- Hiscock, Jeffrey G., C. Scott Thourot, and Joyce Zhang. "Phosphorus budget—land use relationships for the northern Lake Okeechobee watershed, Florida." Ecological Engineering 21.1 (2003): 63-74.
- Havens, Karl E., and Dale E. Gawlik. "Lake Okeechobee conceptual ecological model." Wetlands 25.4 (2005): 908-925.
- James, R. Thomas, et al. "Nitrogen dynamics in Lake Okeechobee: forms, functions, and changes." Hydrobiologia 669.1 (2011): 199-212.
-Beaver, John R., et al. "Extreme weather events influence the phytoplankton community structure in a large lowland subtropical lake (Lake Okeechobee, Florida, USA)." Hydrobiologia 709.1 (2013): 213-226.
I will still find more sources or may decide not to use these but I wanted to make my general intentions known. If anyone has suggested sources/information or sees any conflicting issues with these source, I would appreciate the advice. Wittlj (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome! The article will certainly benefit from such an addition. If you need any help in formatting citations or otherwise dealing with the Wikipedia:Manual of style, I will be happy to help. - Donald Albury 19:15, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Reassessment needed
editThis is no way a start-class article. Is there some way we can get this reassessed to reflect all the work that's been put in? Kazamzam (talk) 15:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- Any editor can enter an assessment for an article. I don't pay attention to such rankings. I look at articles in terms how they can be improved, and whether I want to spend time improving the article. - Donald Albury 18:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
8th Largest Natural Freshwater Lake
editThe intro to this article mentions that Lake Okeechobee is the 10th largest natural freshwater lake in the US, but clicking the link to the page of largest U.S. lakes shows that it’s the 10th largest overall. However, the Great Salt Lake is #8 and is not freshwater, and Lake Oahe is #9 but is manmade.
The introduction should be changed to either indicate Lake Okeechobee is the 8th largest natural freshwater lake, or simply the 10th largest lake in the U.S. Kevinsja (talk) 16:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)