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Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, I'll be the one to review this nomination. I'll be posting further comments within the next few days. Tayi ArajakateTalk 12:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the late review, turns out it's more difficult to understand geological reports than I thought. Jo-Jo Eumerus, pinging, since I have completed the review and put it on hold for the time being. I might have missed some things so I'll go over it again but for the most part there are some prose issues to be resolved from my understanding. Tayi ArajakateTalk 18:45, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Jo-Jo Eumerus, I've added some suggestions for prose if you'll have them. Otherwise, I've done a second brief review and there doesn't appear to be anything else left. Tayi ArajakateTalk 17:51, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Jo-Jo Eumerus, I think the article by now meets the criterion of a good article so I'll pass it, especially since there doesn't seem to be any other "former lakes" among good articles. The prose is a lot better now but I have a bit of reservation on this, for example it could have been expanded a lot more from the sources that are present here, in terms of geology, geological history as well as research history. Tayi ArajakateTalk 08:31, 24 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The word "highstand" may be confusing for those unfamiliar with geology as a subject, I'd suggest adding a dating or period for the highstand in the lead itself to make it more clear.
Added a parenthetical explanation - the thing about lake highstands is that one usually knows they occurred without knowing when. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following lines, "The lake was a high altitude lake in southern Colorado. It reached an elevation of 2,335 meters (7,661 ft) at highstand and covered most of the San Luis Valley/San Luis Basin north of the San Luis Hills. Westwards, Lake Alamosa reached to the San Juan Mountains close to Monte Vista to the west. Northwards, it almost reached the present-day location of Saguache." could be phrased better.
Oy, this one was hard. Did a minor rewrite but I am not sure if there is a better wording. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
I could suggest one, for example in the following form, "The lake was a high altitutde lake in southern Colorado covering most of San Luis Valley. It reached an elevation of 2,335 meters (7,661 ft) at highstand and spread across the San Luis Basin till the north of San Luis Hills. In the west, Lake Alamosa spread towards the San Juan Mountains and close to Monte Vista. While in the north, it almost reached the present-day location of Saguache."Tayi ArajakateTalk 17:47, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
"The lake" as a heading could be re-named to "Description". The section on climate could as well be merged under this section.
Well, that didn't cross my mind. Renamed, but "climate" isn't a property of a lake so I wouldn't merge them. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following line, "The lake would have been nourished by glacial meltwater coming from the San Juan, Sawatch, and Sangre de Cristo Mountains." should use "was" instead of "would have been".
History is usually at the top so perhaps the two sections can be placed as the first two sections.
Eh, I think that for such natural events which mostly pre-date human presence a lower location is better. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The last two paragraphs of the subsection "After the overflow" isn't per se history and would be better placed under "The lake" or "Description".
True, but the "after the overflow" section becomes very short then. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Couldn't the section just be merged with "Overflow" which could be renamed "Overflow and aftermath"? The last paragraph under "Overflow" does describe a bit of the aftermath. Tayi ArajakateTalk 17:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following lines, "Jacob Fowler first described the existence of the former lake in 1811–1812. Decades before the region was settled and earlier than other geologic expeditions such as these of John Wesley Powell, he recorded the following:" read awkwardly and can create confusion between the two people. It should also use "those" instead of "these".
I admit, no better formulation comes to mind. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
How about something akin to the following, "Decades before the region was settled and earlier than geologic expeditions such as those of John Wesley Powell, in a 1811–1812 hunting and trapping expedition, Jacob Fowler had recorded the following:" ? Tayi ArajakateTalk 17:28, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following lines, "In 1910 proof of the existence of the lake was found in well logs. The lake is named after the Alamosa Formation, which in turn received its name from Siebenthal 1910 who in that year postulated the existence of a former lake in the Alamosa Basin." read awkwardly as well, also shouldn't it be "named by Siebenthal"? There also needs to be comma after "In 1910" and there shouldn't be a need to mention the year twice.
That's the standard naming for a scientific paper. I am a little iffy on reframing it so that it refers to a person. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
In that case, I'd suggest reframing it to something like the following, "The lake is named after the Alamosa Formation, which in turn was designated its name in the paper Siebenthal 1910; Claude Siebenthal had postulated the existence of the former lake in the Alamosa Basin. The proof of the existence of the lake was found in well logs in the same year."Tayi ArajakateTalk 17:20, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following line, "Later, the geologist Ferdinand Vandeveer Hayden in 1875 wrote a more detailed account of the former lake, although he got some details wrong." is left a bit vague and can be elaborated on a bit since some examples are given in the cited source. The line should also come before the preceding line.
The line should also come before the 1910 confirmation. So, it doesn't make sense to present it after that. Tayi ArajakateTalk 17:22, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Did the first; I am not sure about the second change since the current structure groups related topics together. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
The word "later" should be removed at the least in that case. Tayi ArajakateTalk 08:21, 24 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Other minor issues.
The lake's length north–south is given as 105 km in the cited source instead of 104 km.