Talk:Kuva-yi Milliye

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Visnelma in topic Origins

Importance?

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I don't think this meets the criteria to be "top" importance so I suggest it is changed to "high". If you think "top" is right please explin why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jzlcdh (talkcontribs) 16:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Name in Turkish language

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I transferred results of researches made by User:İnfoCan about the name of this organizaion.

  • A: "Kuvayımilliye"
  • B: "Kuvay-i Milliye"
  • C:"Kuvayı Milliye"
  • D: "Kuvayi Milliye"
  • E: "Kuvay-ı Milliye"
  • F: "Kuva-i Milliye"
  • G: "Kuva-ı Milliye"
  • H: "Kuva-yı milliye"
  • I: "Kuva-yi milliye"
Arama Google site:
gov.tr
site:
edu.tr
Google
books
site:
tumgazeteler.com
site:
netkitap.com
A 693 174 9 27 116 4
B 75.200 2330 114 346 169 1
C 161.000 11.900 485 566* 2150* 158*
D 123.000 19.300 387 584* 1300 106
E 171.000 46.500 528 514 1280 5
F 53.500 11.400 143 213 303 6
G 934 8 3 15 8 6
H 258.000* 126.000* 3.470* 580* 1560 53
I 963.000* 192.000* 22.000* 464 5770* 214*

(*) most common use.

Takabeg (talk) 01:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Move to National Forces (historical Turkish militia)

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On the English Wikipedia, article titles are written using the English language according to wikipedia naming conventions. It doesn't have a meaningless English translation. It is also very common in English language sources as well. Yet Kuva-yi Milliye seems to be written differently on various sources. So it is the right thing to use the English version.The Outsider (talk) 11:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Where is your consensus?Shadow4dark (talk) 06:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Sometimes we use native name like Rajya Sabha Shadow4dark (talk) 08:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

@OutsiderKK:

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Stop removing the page without a consensus. Beshogur (talk) 17:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Move war

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@OutsiderKK and Beshogur: I ask both of you to step back a bit. The first move by OutsiderKK was a legitimate WP:Bold move. Likewise, the revert move by Beshogur was just as legitimate according to WP:BRD. But then this took off in an unpleasent direction. The second move by OutsiderKK, had all the hallmarks of being the start of a WP:Move war. No new arguments, just the same edit with the same edit summary. The second revert of Beshogur was not less problematic, since it was a cut and paste move, which is a no-no in Wikipedia. I guess the reason was that an ordinary move was no longer possible due to intervening edits. The result is that the article history and the talk page history now are connected to the redirect pages, not to the target pages. This mess can only be cleaned up by administrator intervention.

I will later today ask an administrator to put the article back to the pre-war version. Please refrain from making any more edits before the mess is sorted out. @OutsiderKK, please go to WP:RM to learn how you can try to create consensus for your suggested move. @Beshogur, you can use the time to prepare (policy-based) arguments for your view. --T*U (talk) 09:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Origins

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According to David Nicolle, they were actually bandits on western Anatolia who fought against the Ottoman Gendarme in 19th and 20th century, and Kuva-yi Milliye originated from these bandits. This could be mentioned.--Visnelma (talk) 18:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply