Talk:Koi-Koi

I disagree with some of the point values in this article.

In electronic games I have played,

• sankou = 6 points
• ame-shikou = 8 points
• shikou = 10 points
• gokou = 15 points —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.117.249 (talk • contribs) 05:08, Dec 5, 2008

It seems to me like every single source gives different point values for different yaku.

The question is of course which point values Wikipedia would use, if we're going to use any values at all. 195.84.41.1 (talk) 07:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The points given in the current version of the article match those given in at least one Nintendo ruleset, which is probably the closest thing to an official ruleset the game has. I've noted that point values often vary, though. - furrykef (Talk at me) 05:33, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

On the other hand, https://www.heyrick.co.uk/blog/images/20110729koikoi_rules_two.jpeg is a scan of an official Nintendo rule set included in a hanafuda deck that has different scoring than that shown here. 86.214.109.247 (talk) 19:53, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

I have Nintendo rules in English that list the same points as the heyrick image. Regardless, there is really no one set of rules and points. —Flicky1984 (talk) 12:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Set Scores

Are we entirely sure that sets like Inoshikachō, Akatan, Aotan etc are 'inflatable', ie each additional qualifying card after a koi-koi scores an extra point? I know that's the case with open-ended sets like Tanzaku, Tane and Kasu, but not those that are specific. Been playing for a number of years, but I've never known that. 86.167.58.49 (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I've played that way for a long time. I think there are a lot of house rules in different koi-koi iterations. Navarr (talk) 17:42, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I'd like to discuss the merits of merging the Hawaiian-style Koi-Koi into this article. I envision the merged article as having a section for Hawaiian-style Koi-Koi which would call out the differences between it and the standard Koi-Koi game. — Myasuda (talk) 15:21, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I prefer separate pages. I think merging the pages would make the descriptions of both games potentially more confusing. The two pages should however refer (link) to each other to facilitate comparison. Pagat (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

The rules are very similar between the two, although the scoring for Animal cards and Ribbon cards are reversed in most Hawaiian variants. Also, some cards used in the Hawaiian variants have the Japanese months printed on them and markings indicating the different yaku combinations. I see value in merging the two articles. Also, does anybody have the book Hanafuda The Flower Card Game by Japan Productions? That could be a very useful source of citation information. Also, you can find a pdf of Koi-Koi instructions from Nintendo that they include in their hanafuda decks.2603:3001:3300:EA00:1007:832C:88D6:5770 (talk) 14:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Oppose on the grounds that the description of the two games seem distinct. I looked at performing the merge, but to do so as the last poster proposes would require essentially writing a whole new article (rather than merging the existing article). Klbrain (talk) 23:22, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Oppose on grounds of potential confusion.

I have the book by Japan Publications, I'll add some cites asap. —Flicky1984 (talk) 12:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)