Talk:King Wu of Chu

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Zanhe in topic Fact check

WP:ERA edit

Per WP:ERA, this page was established with BCE and CE dating and that should be kindly maintained pending a new consensus. Thanks. — LlywelynII 11:56, 6 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Fact check edit

The infobox gives his name as Xiong Da of the Mi; the running text calls him Xiong Tong. Was Tong his style (字) or is one or both wrong? Or is this a similar situation to the Wu and Yue names where there are two distinct names, one of which seems to transliterate a non-Chinese name and another which seems to translate its meaning?

Also, the same line with "Xiong Tong" claims he named himself "King Wu" while the infobox says it was his posthumous name. Aside from the WP:MOS-ZH issue of whether we should use "King Wu of Chu" or "the Wu King of Chu" for such posthumous names (it's literally an epithet meaning "the Warlike King of Chu" and not a proper personal name at all), was it actually taken on as a regnal name or was he known as King Da/Tong during life and became the Wu King after his death? — LlywelynII 12:13, 6 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

This source seems to support "Xiong Tong" (not Da) but also "King Tong" during life and not "the Wu King" until after his death. — LlywelynII 12:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
His real name was probably Xiong Che (熊徹), as written on the Tsinghua Bamboo Slips. It was likely changed in historical documents (to Xiong Tong in Shiji, and Xiong Da in Zuozhuan) during the Han Dynasty, due to naming taboo of Liu Che, Emperor Wu of Han. -Zanhe (talk) 14:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)Reply