Talk:Kelp tea

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Jytdog in topic WP:MEDRS

Doopedia and supposed medicinal effects edit

This non-English source is not interpretable for users of the English encyclopedia. Please find a better one. The removed content and source follow. --Zefr (talk) 04:11, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

In traditional Korean medicine, kelp tea with high alkaline mineral and laminin content is used to prevent hypertension and also to bring down blood pressure.[1]

References

  1. ^ "dasima-cha" 다시마차. Doopedia (in Korean). Doosan Corporation. Retrieved 20 June 2017.
@Zefr: Hi, Zefr! Doosan Encyclopedia is not a spam ref, and please stop deleting referenced sentences. You can provide a counter evidence if you want to argue that there is "no medicinal effects". You can't remove a referenced sentence because you don't understand the referenced non-English material. And also please stop edit warring and blanking your talk page. --Dallae (talk) 04:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Anything implying medicinal effects must meet the quality of evidence described by WP:MEDRS. Please read the guideline and provide a better reference in English, if one exists. Warning: WP:3RR. --Zefr (talk) 04:19, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Zefr: I'm restoring my comment. Please don't remove someone else's comment from a talk page. (WP:TPO) Regarding the Doosan Encyclopedia and WP:MEDRS, there's nothing against the guideline. The encyclopedia is a reliable tertiary source. Please note that cited materials written in languages you don't understand are not "improper" sources. Also, I added another source which I hope you can understand (It's in English and it's a journal article.) so please don't delete sourced sentences that you don't like. --Dallae (talk) 04:50, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
this was obviously an WP:Edit conflict. You were correct to fix it. Your edit warring is not OK, nor is the source, per WP:MEDRS, which you have failed to deal with this whole time. Jytdog (talk) 05:06, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

WP:MEDRS edit

User:Dallae please read WP:MEDRS and reply here when you have. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 04:58, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Jytdog: Planta Medica is a peer reviewed journal, a medical one. Are you the same person as User:Zefr or are you a different person? I don't mind being blocked and leave Wikipedia if a tertiary source (an encyclopedia) and a secondary source (a journal article) combined do not qualify as "reliable" sources due to WP:MEDRS. Maybe I'm not "Wikipedian" enough. --Dallae (talk) 05:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
MEDRS =/= "peer reviewed". You are not paying attention to a key guideline here. Please read it. Jytdog (talk) 05:07, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Can it be said that kelp tea is used in traditional Korean medicine, or perhaps traditional Korean herbalism without making any specific claims? It seems necessary for the article to explain the use of the tea. Jack N. Stock (talk) 05:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
At this point I don't know if its main "use" is traditional medicine, or it is something people just drink. but yes if/when we find refs discussing its use in traditional medicine we can discuss that stuff. Jytdog (talk) 05:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Basically the same content was at Kombu#Cooking. I just redirected it there for now. Jytdog (talk) 05:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply