Talk:Katherine Garrison Chapin

Latest comment: 3 years ago by AleatoryPonderings in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 23:35, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Intend to review. Some of my comments may not specifically relate to a GA criteria, such as a prose comment. Hope that's OK. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:35, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Eddie891, Thanks! And of course, any and all comments are welcome. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 23:58, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • How does WIlliams 2016 meet WP:SCHOLARSHIP?
  • All other sources are reliable
  • "daughter of Catherine Garrison Van Auken and financier Barret Van Auken" since neither is notable, why bother listing them? I understand parents, but grandparents feels like a bit much
  • "who spent his childhood in Paris and Dresden" I'm similarly wondering as to the benefit of including this
  • What is "a woman of letters "?
  • "She would later work to gain recognition" who is 'she' and what time is 'would later'?
  • "a private school Dennett calls " optional, but I like to briefly introduce who people you quote are, so the reader knows why to care
  • "It was evidently progressive for the time" Is this needed? It feels the slightest bit to me like editorializing/or (mainly here the word 'evidently'-- what is obvious to one person is not, in my experience, necessarily obvious to another
  • Do we know what years she was at colombia?
    • I don't think so; sources are vague on this point. Her NYT obit says "later took postgraduate work", but does not give dates. It is not clear that she graduated; seems more like it was a casual-type thing. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 14:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "Francis was from an old Philadelphia family and practiced law there for many years, which explains why Katherine was living there in the 1930s." Would you consider something like "In the 1930s Chapin was living in Philadelphia, where her husband practiced law for many years."? This places the emphasis on our article subject rather than her husband
    • Changed to "Chapin lived in Philadelphia in the 1930s; Francis had grown up there and practiced law in the city for many years". AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "Francis briefly became a judge on the Third Circuit, " 1) I don't think it's immediately clear in this context what the third circuit is and 2) I don't think you can briefly 'become' something-- you can quickly become something or briefly serve as
  • is this Still William Grant Still?-- if so should be linked on first mention
  • "Chapin wrote Bright Mariner (1930) in his memory." perhaps briefly preface with "wrote the [Book/something else] Bright Mariner (1930) in his memory"
    • Clarified to "poem"; I think it was published as a standalone chapbook at some point but it seems to be just a single poem. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "who would name her one of the inaugural" suggest "who named her one of the inaugural [...] in [YEAR]"
  • "In addition to her service on the Bollingen Prize jury," do we have years for any of these?
    • Added dates for National Book Award and Shelley Memorial Award. Couldn't find specific dates for the LoC lectures—assume they were while she was a Fellow in American Letters, but didn't see anything in particular to confirm that. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:03, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • You don't seem to cite her exact date of death in the article
  • "Alain Locke praised " who is 'Locke'?
    • Specified as "philosopher"; he's linked earlier on in the article, but I could link again for convenience. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "who was known for her tight grip on those who won her favor" is this needed? I feel like it makes your gloss of who Mason was a little on the long side
  • "For a time, Chapin helped to manage Mason's affairs with her sister Marguerite." 1) do you know the time, and 2 is it "managed Mason's affairs with mason's sister", "managed Mason's affairs with Chapin's sister", or "worked with marguerite to manage Mason's affairs"?
  • So when did Chapin write And They Lynched Him on a Tree?
  • I think we generally put poems and similar length items in "quotes" and larger works in italics
    • This is tricky. I used italics for And They Lynched Him, Plain-Chant, etc, because they're not just poems. I was thinking of them as analogous to operas (see usage of italics in, say, Aida), since they were set to music. Not averse to changing them to quotes, though. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:29, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "Congress was debating an anti-lynching bill sponsored by Representative Joseph A. Gavagan." how does this bill relate to Chapin and her work?
  • Why is Sojourner Truth listed in the 'works' section as unpublished? If it ran for weeks, I'd consider that publication
    • Listed as unpublished because the text of the play does not appear to have been published as a book, so I didn't have any bibliographic information about it. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • You shouldn't need to repeat her name in the list of bibliographical items, it is assumed that she's the author of her works
  • Prose is nicely done, overall-- just some suggestions. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Comprehensiveness edit

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  • I've checked a number of references and everything lines up. Meets the GA criteria, passing. Thanks for your work on an important topic. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Eddie891, Thanks so much! I appreciate it :) AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply