Talk:Kardashian

Disambiguation, or page on the Kardashian family?

This is cited as a disambiguation page, but except for a single image (and a Star Trek misspelling) it focuses on three generations of a single family, including lots of information that has no business on a disambiguation page. If the Kardashian family is notable then it should have its own page where such information is presented. I suggest two alternatives:

• Convert this to a page on the Kardashian family
• Strip the non-disambiguation matter from this page (e.g. Mason Dash Disick, Kris Jenner)

-- Dan Griscom (talk) 10:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

It seems to be a page about the family, so I'm going to move it to Kardashian family. Another reason is for the name etymology, which I feel needs a source, but my {{fact}} tag was removed because disambig pages aren't supposed to have references. If we ever have an article on an unrelated Kardashian, we can make a real disambiguation page. Lesgles (talk) 18:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Well Kardashian family redirects to Keeping Up with the Kardashians. If anyone else has input or if an admin wants to sort this out, that would be great. Lesgles (talk) 18:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Kardashian → Kardashian family – Although this page is billed as a disambiguation page, it really only covers the members of a single family made famous by reality TV. Their notability stems only as members of this family, and thus the page should be moved to Kardashian family. However, there is a complication: Kardashian family currently redirects to Keeping Up with the Kardashians (which confirms the rationale for the move). So, I request that (upon review) the Kardashian family link page be deleted, and Kardashian be moved to Kardashian family. -- Dan Griscom (talk) 02:45, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• Support. If we ever get articles on Kardashians who are not members of this family, we can restore the disambiguation page. Lesgles (talk) 03:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
• Support. I note that surname lists are not disambiguation pages, but otherwise the proposal seems accurate. "Kardashian family" is a better title for this list of members of that family. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
• Support. By far the most likely target of a search at this point will be the now-famous family. bd2412 T 18:16, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
• Comment ...this isn't a common surname in Armenia, neither hy. nor ru. wp have articles on non-related Kardashians. There's a historian, Ardashes Kardashian (1943) but not notable. But it won't be long before someone makes a BLP for Ron Kardashian a Christian weightloss guru. He doesn't appear to be related and he has media/book coverage. The moment someone makes a stub this move will have to be undone. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:42, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

mmmmm... as above Kardashian family is currently a redirect to Keeping Up with the Kardashians, so the proposal is simply to change the title of the "Kardashian" surname article to remove tag Category:Armenian-language surnames and exclude Ron Kardashian. (Doesn't really seem to be much point does there?) In ictu oculi (talk) 08:45, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

A few weeks later, I notice that this move was effectively declined by an administrator. Please contact him with any concerns. --BDD (talk) 17:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)