Talk:Kangxi Dictionary

Latest comment: 2 years ago by CWH in topic Comparison with English Dictionaries

Structure of the Kangxi dictionary : title of each part ? edit

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Hello, I need chinese help to complet the english article en:Kangxi Dictionary (康熙字典). Can you help me to complete the Structure, I already see the page number using 康熙字典網上版 Kangxi Dictionary Net Version, but I need the title of each part.

So, using 康熙字典網上版, please help me to complete this :

  • ? : p.1 to 6 (《御製序》)
  • ? : p.7 to 12 (《凡例》)
  • ? : p.13 to 40 (《等韻》)
  • List of old radicals : p.24 to 26
  • List of Kangxi radicals : p.41 to 49 (《總目》)
  • List of character which are moving to an other radical (?) : p.50 to 66.
  • ? : p.66 to 70
  • ? : p.70/71
  • ? : p.73/74
  • The dictionary part start with the radical 一, one : p.75 to 1631
    • ? : p.75 to 1538
    • List of [214 kangxi ?] radicals : p.1539 to 1544 《補遺》
    • ? : p.1545 to 1576
    • List of [214 kangxi ?] radicals : p.1577 to 1583 《備考》
    • ? : p.1585 to 1631
  • Other explanations :
  • ? : p.1633/34/35
  • ? : p.1637 to 1683

End.

Yug 20:52 2006年6月12日 (UTC)

J'aime vous aider... mais non maintenant--鄧啟昌 03:33 2006年6月13日 (UTC)
Dane by me , please check them! --方洪渐 01:48 2006年6月14日 (UTC)

former move edit

The following message was moved from Talk:Kangxi Dictionary.--Neo-Jay (talk) 05:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

I moved this to "Kangxi dictionary" (notice lowercase 'd'), as I don't see the reason 'd' has to be capitalized. Please just let me know if I am missing something. -- Taku 22:45, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Requested move edit

Move. This is a book. Its title should be capitalized. I really cannot understand why User:TakuyaMurata moved it to lowercase at 22:44, 23 May 2005. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization). --Neo-Jay (talk) 04:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Moved as it's a proper noun and is therefore capitalized. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
I honestly can't recall why I moved the article :) Perhaps I was mistaken. Maybe I was trying to follow some kind of a guideline other than mentioned above, but if that was the case, I should have left some kind of note on the reasoning for the move. In any rate, I agree with the move. -- Taku (talk) 06:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Support the capitalised version Kangxi Dictionary. Andrewa (talk) 09:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Numbers quibble edit

Hi, this article says:

"The dictionary contains more than 47,000 characters (including obscure, variant, rare, and archaic characters) but less than a quarter of these characters are now in common use."

From this I deduce that the number of characters in common use is less than 11,750, but not drastically so, and certainly more than 9,400 otherwise the text would refer to a fifth not a quarter. Are there really this many characters in common use? 109.153.233.36 (talk) 23:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

You can pass the highest level of the HSK proficiency exam with only 2,600 characters. Studies show that someone who knows 3,500 characters can read 99.48% of modern Chinese text. I have seen the estimate that someone working with legal documents in Taiwan might need as many as 10,000 characters. So, 11,750 is probably an over-estimate of the number of characters "in common use". Of course, it depends what you mean by that term. If one means only to exclude very rare or obsolete variants the number of characters may be a good deal higher.Bill (talk) 02:34, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Comparison with English Dictionaries edit

I question the appropriateness of the comparison of the number of entries in English dictionaries in the first paragraph. The entry count for this dictionary is the number of characters it defines, whereas the entry count for the English dictionaries is the number of words they define. Since most Chinese words are written with more than one character, these numbers are not comparable.Bill (talk) 02:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

You make a fair point, but Endymion Wilkinson is one of the best and most sensible authorities in the field, and he thinks it's an interesting observation. Still, maybe we should put it in a way to raise fewer eyebrows. I'll give it a try.ch (talk) 04:49, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply