Talk:Just Dance (song)/Archive 1

Original Just Dance

Anyone have any information as to why the original male verse in the song was sung by Akon, and then changed for the radio and album release? I've always wondered why this happened because, no offense to Colby, but Akon singing the same verse does a MUCH better job.

Jerome Alam, Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.228.59.82 (talk) 09:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Lyrics

I don't know how such a biased and conservative analysis of the lyrics were included in this article but bias has no place here and it should not be there, I am removing the analysis as it isn't only biased, it isn't necessary in this article. Eric, San Francisco 12-10-08 10:56 PM

What does 'getting hosed' mean? F W Nietzsche (talk) 13:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

There is a great deal of disagreement between sources as to what the exact lyrics are, particularly the 'psychotic, hypnotic, electronic?' verse. Does anyone know the exact actual lyrics? F W Nietzsche (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Darin

Should it be mentioned that the Swedish singer Darin has a rewritten version of this song called "Girl Next Door" on his album Flashback? ραncακemisτακe (talk) 01:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Sales

In general where can i find the total sales for this song, is there a special site?

SALES NOW STAND AT 4,263,000+ http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/35920/chart-watch-extra-the-top-10-songs-and-albums-at-mid-year/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.247.27 (talk) 03:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

SALES NOW AT 4,358,382+ http://perezhilton.com/2009-07-27-lady-gaga-tops-the-tops-with-her-pop#more-62568 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.247.27 (talk) 19:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

No, perez hilton cannot be added as it fails WP:RS badly

ITS ALSO HERE http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/40280/week-ending-july-26-2009-the-phantom-1-is-back-on-top/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.190.216.30 (talk) 22:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

New Cover

Is there any confirmation on this? Either way, I think we should stick with the US cover for two reasons: 1. It's the original 2. The other one looks better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.174.45 (talk) 00:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

charts

A number of times the chart peak positions are being changed. Please stop doing it. Just Dance is at present no 2 on Billboard Hot 100, no. 3 on UK Singles Chart. Stop changing them untill and unless a new chart is published. User:Ericorbit, thanks for protecting the page. "Legolas" (talk) 04:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

remix

Glam As You Radio Mix is becoming really popular on the radio in the UK at the minute. Radio 1 are playing it instead of the original. 86.155.11.144 (talk) 02:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Charts

The newest chart peaks in the table should be under a Chart (2009) heading. 70.49.86.61 (talk) 01:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Irrevocably done "Legolas" (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

A question: shouldn't the US charts be included in the 2009 part? I know that the song first appeared on those charts in 2008, but we are listing peak positions, and Just Dance reached its peak on those charts in 2009... See Low (Flo Rida song) for an example of what I mean. The song first charted in 2007, but it didn't reach #1 until the 1st week of 2008, so the charts are listed as 2008. 65.94.113.122 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:44, 15 January 2009 (UTC).

Not counting the Dance chart though, Just Dance reached #2 on that chart in 2008. 65.94.113.122 (talk) 05:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Correct, irrevocably done. "Legolas" (talk) 05:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Alternate covers

I think alternate covers or remix covers are needed.Anyone agree!Dance-pop (talk) 09:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Only if it is significantly different than the main image and doesnot fail NFCC#8 and NFCC#2. "Legolas" (talk) 09:49, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Music Video tattoo

If we see the tattoo on the left side on the screen,the tattoo is supposed to be on Lady Gaga's RIGHT eye,yet is mentioned as 'left eye' ? Please check and correct thx. --HellFire (talk) 14:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The tat. isn't real, it's painted on as far as I know. If you see a live version of her, and you can see her sides, it isn't there.Has Anybody Seen My Disco Stick? 04:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Whatever is mentioned in the article is correct only. In the video the tattoo sticker is under her right eye but it is under her left eye on the single cover. --Legolas ^(talktome) 04:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

B-class

I think its safe to move the article to B-class now. --Legolas ^(talktome) 11:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

It should have been done alond time ago.

Arbitrary statistics

When somebody reaches a rank in sales, it has implications for how much money they make, and what current influence they have on culture. However when statistics are used to compare any arbitrary situation, they become trivia. That is why statistics that did not have to do with the song were removed. Any number of comparisons can be drawn: "Singer-songwriters who were number one before and after 'Just Dance'", "Girl singers who were number one before and after", "American girl singers who were number one before and after", "American white girl singers who reached number one simultaneously in the U.S. and the U.K." The comparisons are endless, trivial, and original research. Piano non troppo (talk) 06:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Disagree. The article only states the chart replacement of this song by another artist. That doesnot come under your statistical analysis. --Legolas ^(talktome) 06:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Moving forward

I've noticed the article was (more recently) promoted to a "b". After a hefty read through, I've also noticed that this article actually should be moving forward to becoming a potential good article candidate. I'd like to ask (from a wide range of views) that before I do my research, does anyone else notice any significance this song presents? Some good points to include. -- A ^talk/_contribs 04:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Agree. But it is better to wait for untill the song comes down all the charts since IPs are continuously editing now and will be a pain if its expanded now. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

10 mins. to write!

She states that it took 10 mins. to write the song. source http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/gaga%20i%20wrote%20hit%20in%2010%20minutes_1100865 Cloverfield Monsta (talk) 01:16, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It can go in the article. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Just Dance/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Hello, I am Unionhawk. I will be reviewing this article. This is my first time with a GA review, so, if I make a mistake, accept apologies in advance. Anyway, let's get on this.

Criteria

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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Fix the lead up, and I think you have it.

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   Well done.

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   The lead needs more in-line citations. Everywhere else is great.

   C. No original research:

   The lead appears to have some OR... maybe

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

   It is stable, but I'm thinking once protection expires, it will become unstable, and subsequently reprotected.

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Like I said, there are issues with the lead, but not much more. You have 7 days. If you wish that I re-review before that 7 day period, leave me a message on my talk page.

I'm not entirely sure what appears as original research in the lead, as most of it is repeated in the main body of the article. I guess I must be missing it, so could you point it out instead? I have, however done some general copy editing. -- A ^talk/_contribs 04:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I've taken a quick look at the article, to me it looks good. Reference #55 needs to be properly formatted, though. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 04:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

re: "Just Dance" review

Apparently, I was unclear about the lead. I'm saying that 2 in-line citations isn't enough for how long the lead is.--Unionhawk ^Talk 17:43, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Well... there's four in-line citations now. Nothing else is worth citing as it's repeated in the article and likely won't be challenged information. -- A ^talk/_contribs 19:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. I did not know about that guideline before. If you are ready, let me know.--Unionhawk ^Talk 19:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, as I've just rid (definate) original research from lead I think we're ready. Thanks to fellow users for pointing out errors. -- A ^talk/_contribs 21:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

All right. I'll take a good look.--Unionhawk ^Talk 00:52, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Post On-Hold Review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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After about 2 days of tweaks, and me learning one guideline, here's my review:

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

   Then again, what article isn't slightly unstable when unprotected?

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Good job on the GA. Congratulations.

GA Review fixes

The review has stated that the lead need fixing. So disscus below changes that will improve it within 7 days. Cloverfield Monsta (talk) 03:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The quote ("a happy record which makes one feel good") should have an in-line citation. The intoxicated sentence is not sourced in the article as far as I can see.  Done

To say, "most critics calling it irresistible" is incorrect, you have one reviewer from the BBC stating this. Tone it down a little? "Commended by most reviewers" or something.  Done

Calling it a sleeper hit without a source could be controversial OR - you would have to prove it was 'unexpected'?  Done

"but electronic duo Daft Punk for their song "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger"." makes no sense - should be "but was beaten by electronic..." Or just remove Daft Punk altogether, the notable part is the Gaga nom, not who it was beaten by. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 06:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)  Done

Thanks. I've fixed source #55. As for the "irresistable" sentence, I've cut that portion out seeing as it was only one reviewer and didn't fit in the sentence - with that gone, the sentence focuses more on how critics complimented its club anthem-like nature. The "happy record which makes one feel good" has also been cut to "happy record", seeing as that's the only thing the citation says. I've also cited the "intoxicated" and "sleeper hit" commments, though. -- A ^talk/_contribs 10:38, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe change "critics" to "reviewers", just so critic isn't repeated in that sentence. Otherwise, really good job! k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 12:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Done, and thanks. (: -- A ^talk/_contribs 12:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

What key?

The article claims that the song is in the key of C# minor (which I am not necessarily disputing) but then goes on to claim it contains the chords "F---Am---C---G--D-F---Am---C---G--D-F" none of which are in the key of C# Minor. Either that is not the correct key, or those are not the correct chords. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.105.223 (talk) 14:00, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, only read this after posting the thing at the bottom. I'm confused by this too. I'm happy to accept that it's in C# minor, but I get the chords as C#m, E, B, F#m and then A and C#m for the pre chorus. The chord progression written in the article isn't the same, and those chords written are in the key of F, not C#m. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphabetagamma123 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

cover pic

was taken by Warwick Saints along with others. http://www.warwicksaint.com/photographer/archive/music Hey Boys and Girls (Welcome to the Show…) ° 08:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Charts and Sales

Have been messed up for this song and Poker Face. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.165.126 (talk) 18:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh really? What is your solution then? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Chords

I was just wondering if someone else could check out the chords to this piece please? I reckon that they are C#m, E, B and F#m for the verse and chorus and A and C#m for the pre chorus, not the pregression that is written down. I have tried to follow the source link, but that requires downloading software and paying for the music. If I play the chords written down it is obvious they are incorrect though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphabetagamma123 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I did the same but you don't even need to play them to realise this. Playing the chord of C in a song in the key of C# Minor will result in some rather painful dischord. I'll remove the reference to the chord progression completely until someone can find a reputable source that proves a believable chord sequence. And you're meant to get what you pay for, IndigoSeptimus (talk) 20:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Lady Gaga Meets Rock Band

I've polished the line in the introduction that mentions the inclusion of Just Dance in the Lady Gaga Pack 01 for Rock Band but I'm wondering if there is a more appropriate place in the article to integrate this into? None of the section are particularly obvious, except for Releases but that's only a table. The Lady Gaga Pack 01 isn't likely going to develop into more than a sentence so I'm stumped, I certainly don't think it should permanently reside in the intro. Suggestions? IndigoSeptimus (talk) 22:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Just Dance chords

There are four people on this talk page (includng myself) who all agree that the specified chords, which contain an F and C, are contradictory to the agreed key of C# Minor (which is referenced along with these chords in a source that cannot be freely viewed). While we can all also agree that the chords should be C#m, E, B, F#m (or there abouts) none of us have presented a reputable source proving this but we can all agree that the chords of F and C cannot be played in they key of C#. So for the sake of reputability of the article I would suggest that until a reliable source showing both the key and the chords together in a believable state is found, all mention of the song's chord sequence is removed. I'll do it in a couple of days unless anyone objects to this common sense compromise? IndigoSeptimus (talk) 22:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually Musicnotes.com has changed the sheet music and they do reflect the chord structure provided here, so you can make the change. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Reassesment

I think this article is due for reassesment. (I'm not an reviewer) but, I think it is time to upgrade this article to atleast an A-Class. What do you think? Is there anything that needs to be done before this happens. I've edited part of this article (some, including the genre and the beginning) I just need to know what needs to be done. Sprite7868 (talk) 05:29, 03 April 2010 (UTC)

The article is in the middle of a GTC nomination, hence let that close. We can definitely move ahead with the A-class later. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Background Dancers/Video

I'm sorry but, was "Dina and Pepper" (Gaga's former friends according to some videos on Youtube) actually in the music video. And if so, where is the source to back this up. You can't just add this in an article without a source. I am going to delete this part but, if anyone gets a (reliable) source. I will be happy to add this information back. Sprite7868 (talk) 11:20, 06 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Blahcarloblah, 2 July 2010

I would want to edit the total number of digital downloads of "Just Dance". It is stated that it has sold five million paid digital downloads. I would just like to specify that it has sold 5,364,000 copies.

Blahcarloblah (talk) 13:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide a reliable source for it. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:39, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Article inconsistency

According to the "List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 2009 (U.S.)" page, "Just Dance" reached #1 on that chart in the week of Jan. 17, 2009, not Jan. 10. I would assume that that page is correct, and that the succession box on this one needs fixing. -Agur bar Jacé (talk) 20:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Vocal range of the song.

I just want to clarify that G3 is lower than C5 in notation. This article mentions that the G3 is the high note she (Lady Gaga) reaches vocally, and that the C5 is the low note, but C5 is a higher note than G3. Therefore, the two should be switched the other way around, meaning, it should read "Gaga's vocal spans from the low note of G3 to the high note of C5." If somebody could please edit this, it would be appreciated. 75.194.94.19 (talk) 01:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.194.94.19 (talk) 01:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Music Video

We should include a snapshot of the video! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.190.197 (talk) 12:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Anything from the video, fails WP:NFCC#8. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Kiss?

Lady Gaga doesn't even kiss a woman in the music video! -- SpongePappy (talk) 20:37, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

And this is relevant because? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:41, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Because they're saying it all over the internet. -- SpongePappy (talk) 15:11, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

That is not relevant to this article until third party reliable sources address this. Until then I suggest you don;t take this into account since Wikipedia is not a forum. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Just Dance → Just Dance (song) – This once was the primary topic for "Just Dance" but no longer is. A Google search for "'just dance' lady gaga" brings in 12.2 million ghits compared to 28.7 million for "'just dance' game". The Just Dance page should become a disambiguation page with the Just Dance (video game) article title remaining the same. –Chase (talk / contribs) 23:01, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

• Support — Should have been done a long time ago. I guess people forgot because the game was released over a year after the song was. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 00:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
• Google hits is one thing, but WP hits is another; the Lady Gaga song gets twice as many as does the game. Drmies (talk) 04:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
  • By WP hits, I assume you mean page views, Drmies? If so, that should definitely be taken with a pinch of salt because the page views will be skewed by the song already being at the primary topic. Jenks24 (talk) 05:32, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
• Support. I agree that there is no primary topic and that "Just Dance" should become a dab page. It should list Just Dance (song), Just Dance (video game), Just Dance (TV series), Just Dance 2, Just Dance 3, Just Dance Kids and Just Dance Wii (Japan). Jenks24 (talk) 05:32, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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