Talk:John Ireland (disambiguation)

Discussion on the primary topic

@Bagumba and FloridaArmy: Do you have any idea about the primary topic under this title? I see from history that Bagumba made John Ireland (actor) as the primary topic per WP:COMMONNAME two years ago, while FloridaArmy just tried to restore it. I have reverted FloridaArmy's edits because they're not well-formatted. However, if John Ireland (actor) is not the primary topic per consensus, I feel this title has no primary topic. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 04:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

@NmWTfs85lXusaybq: Oops. I presumably meant WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Still looks to be the case.[1] If you contest the recent move, you can also just move it back per WP:RMUM.—Bagumba (talk) 06:22, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

OK, then John Ireland (actor) is undoubtedly the primary topic. For now, I have requested a G6 move per WP:MISPLACED. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 07:00, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Please explain what makes the supporting actor more notable than the former governor of Texas or the highly influential Bishop or the other historical figures. FloridaArmy (talk) 07:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

A Google Books search indicates the other subjects are far more significant. FloridaArmy (talk) 07:54, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

See also this Google result here. FloridaArmy (talk) 08:01, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

And https://www.google.com/search?q=who+are+most+john+ireland+searches+looking+for%3F&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS1006US1006&oq=who+are+most+john+ireland+searches+looking+for%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57.10956j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1 here]. FloridaArmy (talk) 08:04, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

The conposer appears far more common than the actor per [2] FloridaArmy (talk) 08:21, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

It's a misunderstanding of Massviews Analysis. John Ireland (i.e. John Ireland (actor) after your move) has 7,162 views, which is more likely to be viewed than all the other topics combined. That should be a primary topic with respect to usage per WP:PT1. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 10:42, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

How many hits on John Ireland were people looking for the other subjects of the same name user:NmWTfs85lXusaybq? How could that possible be a reasonable comparison? Would you expect John Ireland to get less views than John Ireland (composer)? How common is it for someone to search for the latter and not begin with a search for John Ireland??? FloridaArmy (talk) 13:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

In the month of May, 106 readers at John Ireland clicked to the disambiguation page.[3]—Bagumba (talk) 15:46, 15 June 2023 (UTC)