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Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
@Ghostofdarrenseals: Hi. In the future, if you have a disagreement about material you added that another editor removed and left a reason explaining the removal, please do not add back in contested material, but rather open a discussion here on the talk page reply. Material should only be included by consensus. In this case my concern is for relevance and neutrality: the entry should relay information neutrally, not push a particular political point-of-view.
I'd also like to draw your attention to Wikipedia policy on usernames, particularly names that may be perceived as trolling. Violating username policy can cause editors to be blocked. Please consider changing your username to avoid this issue.
Thanks. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:27, 14 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
Continual bully tactics and vandalism will get you banned
Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion
@Innisfree987: Good afternoon. Innisfree987 I am no troll. I I have no disagreement only concern for your closeness to the article and subject. Are you Mr. Jasiri?
Regarding my username I will not let your bullying tactics upset me. I have been very patient with your very biased re-wording practices. Remember repeat vandalism of articles violates Wikipedia policy. This is my final warning. You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia.
Hi Ghostofdarrenseals. I'm not Jasiri X (my editing history can amply confirm for you), and my letting you know there's policy that may affect your username--that the reference to a recent murder victim may be seen as trolling--is not bullying. (In fact I mentioned it as a courtesy, because usernames found to be in violation of policy may be blocked without warning; I didn't want you to lose access to your account.) Further, my edits are all well-sourced and make good-faith efforts to accurately reflect the way those secondary sources depict Jasiri X: this is not vandalism. Moreover I came to the talk page so we could discuss them, specifically to make sure the entry is as neutral as possible. I see you remain concerned about weasel words: which items specifically are of concern?
For my part, I am concerned by the repeated restoring of buzzword phrasing about "financial support" from George Soros, this time replacing the more detailed description I had added from sources about the project in question (which still including the information about the supporting organization, as with other grants). This risks giving the impression of political bias in the entry, especially when that phrasing was initially added with an unconnected and unreliable reference on Soros and Black Lives Matter. Maintaining an impartial tone is essential to the encyclopedia's credibility, so my edits were in the interest of conveying the information to readers through more neutral terms and without undue weight.
I am also concerned that you have removed references and well-sourced information from the entry. Topics like Jasiri X's start in spoken word, his influence on other musicians, and the citation on an award he won are all encyclopedic, solidly-sourced material there's no reason to remove. Additionally some material (his full name, his first album) had references to reliable sources but you've removed them. Please do not do this; for biographies of living people policy, it's necessary references supporting information stay in the entry, unless they are redundant or unreliable of course. It can also risk misleading other editors to place citation needed tags after removing the supporting source. I'd appreciate it if you would restore these sources and material. Thanks for your collaboration on this entry. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
Pinging @Ghostofdarrenseals: again to get any thoughts you may have on the concerns I've raised above, and also to ask about the notability tag. Given the extent of the sourcing I've turned up, especially analysis in books from highly regarded scholarly publishers, I think the notability is pretty well established and the tag can be removed. Thanks in advance for your input. Innisfree987 (talk) 22:13, 20 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
Done
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