Talk:Ivatan language

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How is the Ivatan /v/ pronounced?

It's like English /v/ - labiodental fricative. I confirmed this with a list of phoenemes done by Reid and an Ivatan recording. My other guess was a bilabial fricative which is not uncommon in other Philippine languages. --Chris S. 03:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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@Austronesier: Similar issues exist on this page. First Ivatan has Babuyan as a dialect, but then it is only 31% intelligible, and then suddenly even Itbayat is a dialect? Very confusing.Glennznl (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Glennznl: I'm not quite sure how to fix all this, especially all these inconsistencies. Probably the best would be to follow Ethnologue. They're not always reliable, especially with regards to subgrouping, but in most Phillipine areas they know what they are talking about. Talking about mess, I'm currently fixing the mess with Sorsoganon/Bisakol, which has bugged me for a long time. –Austronesier (talk) 15:11, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: I just ran into this document that has a lot of information about the grammar in the appendix, starting on page 59: https://edoc.pub/final-ivatan-ortho-ver-dec-2015-pdf-free.html Glennznl (talk) 21:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: I just added a pronoun table using Reid. However, he used his own terminology for the cases, which I found very confusing and hard to make sense of. As a guidance I used a pronoun table for the Yami language, page 123, I don't expect any major differences between grammar of these 2 sets of pronouns, but just so you know http://yamiproject.cs.pu.edu.tw/yami/data/200603/Yami-05.pdf Glennznl (talk) 09:34, 8 June 2020 (UTC)