Talk:Incardination and excardination

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Mathglot in topic Unincardinated and non-incardinated


Unincardinated and non-incardinated

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I've added redirects for the terms unincardinated and non-incardinated which are not currently mentioned in the article. Perhaps they should be. From looking at the few references I found, they appear near synonymous, at least, under certain circumstances. "Unincardinated" appears to be used as an absolute, or global sense, meaning "not incardinated anywhere" (which is a state contrary to canon law, thus should, in theory, never occur, but there is canon law to deal with it when it does occur), whereas "non-incardinated" sometimes means exactly the same thing, but more often than not seems to be used in a relative sense, in the context of talking about a particular diocese, and in this sense means "not incardinated here", and carries an air of expectation, meaning more precisely: "not (yet) incardinated here (but incardinated elsewhere)".

The terms are attested, but it's not easy finding them. Note in particular, that the Catholic Encyclopedia for example, doesn't have it. Here are a few that use it:

  • unincardinated
    • Deck, Allan Figueroa (1989). The Second Wave: Hispanic Ministry and the Evangelization of Cultures. Paulist Press. p. 60. ISBN 978-0-8091-3042-9.
    • PNCC Studies. Polish National Catholic Church, Commission of History and Archives. 1991. p. 14.
    • Beal, John P.; Coriden, James A.; Thomas Joseph Green (2000). New Commentary on the Code of Canon Law. Paulist Press. p. 332. ISBN 978-0-8091-0502-1.unattached used as an appositive for it
  • non-incardinated

Possibly the terms could be added to a new section, "Related terms", or maybe just a "Terminology" section at the top of the body, after summarizing the article to create a very short lead, and leaving the rest of the article in the body.

It should be noted that cardination is not a related term, and has to do with childhood acquistion of quantitative concepts. Mathglot (talk) 02:17, 23 April 2019 (UTC) updated by Mathglot (talk) 08:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)Reply