Talk:I Love You (Billie Eilish song)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Kyle Peake in topic GA Review
Good articleI Love You (Billie Eilish song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 17, 2020Good article nomineeListed
August 16, 2020Featured article candidateNot promoted
Current status: Good article

Assessment edit

Before coolmarc or anyone else removes the GAN template, does this article meet the C-class criteria? Username6892 19:07, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Love You (Billie Eilish song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 12:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply


Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

So meet again... check that you respond properly to any feedback during this review. --Kyle Peake (talk) 12:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead edit

  • Remove the format(s) from the infobox since the song was not released independently
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billie Eilish under Songwriter(s)
  • "co-wrote it, while the latter handled the production" → "co-wrote the song, while the latter handled production"
  • "Eilish's lyrics address several topics" → "Eilish's lyrics on the song address several topics,"
  • There are four reviews of the song in the prose which is enough to show what reception it got; add a sentence about the "received" reviews here and I will tell you afterwards if any fixes are needed
  • "For promotional purposes, the song was" → "For promotional purposes, "I Love You" was" but this should still start the second para
  • "and her Where Do We Go? World Tour in 2020" → "and her 2020 Where Do We Go? World Tour"
  • "When the album When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? became available" → "When the album was released"
  • "and charted in several countries" → "and charted in several other countries"
  • "and Music Canada (MC)." → "and Music Canada (MC), respectively."

  Done

Background and release edit

  • Img looks good
  • "was released as the thirteenth track" → "was released as the 13th track"
  • Cite the AllMusic ref here instead
  • ""I Love You" was written" → "The song was written"
  • "her brother, Finneas O'Connell, who also" → "her brother Finneas O'Connell, and he also solely"
  • "by studio personnel, John Greenham" → "by studio personnel John Greenham"
  • "Casey Cuayo is credited as studio personnel and as an" → "Casey Cuayo received credit as studio personnel and an"
  • Sure you can't find any background info, like where the song originated from or how Finneas O'Connell became involved with it?

user:Kyle Peake I can't find any information on where it was created and what the influence for the song was.

  Done

Composition and lyrical interpretation edit

  • Wikilink tempo to itself and remove link on beats per minute
  • "the key of C Major" → "the key of C major" and fix the wikilink per this too
  • "called it a "dark" song reminiscent" → "called it a "dark" song, reminiscent"
  • "provide "an melancholy" → "provide a "melancholy"
  • "close to an otherwise thrilling album"." → "close" to the album."
  • "Lyrically, Eilish determinedly tries" → "Lyrically, the song features Eilish determinedly trying"
  • "and convinces them they shouldn't either" → "and convincing them they shouldn't love her either"
  • "didn't mean to say "I love you"" → "didn't mean to say 'I love you'" per MOS:QWQ
  • "A faint voice of an airline attendant" → "The faint voice of an airline attendant"
  • "during the second verse. "Up" → "during the second verse, which includes the lyrics: "Up"
  • "favorite songs he and his sister wrote" → "favorite songs he and Eilish wrote"

  Done

  Not done for the entire section --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Reception and promotion edit

  • "When it was released, "I Love You" was praised" → ""I Love You" was praised"
  • "and "serene" and felt its lyrics" → "and "serene", and opined that its lyrics"
  • "saw the song as a" → "viewed the song as a"
  • "called the track a" → "called it a"
  • Wikilink Jon Pareles to himself
  • "which, according to him, are a" → "which he described as a"
  • Target to Billboard Hot 100 should be on Billboard Hot 100 instead of just on Hot 100
  Not done --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "the record for the most simultaneous Hot 100" → "the record of most simultaneous Hot 100"
  • "The song also reached modest peaks" → "The song also attained top 100 positions"
  • Any specific order for the countries here?
  • "New Zealand[17] and the Netherlands" → "New Zealand,[17] and the Netherlands" if the order does stay the same
  • "by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Music Canada (MC)" → "in the United States and Canada by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Music Canada (MC), respectively"
  • "Eilish has promoted "I Love You" through..." remove this unneeded sentence since the entire para is performances
  • "The singer performed the track at" → "Eilish performed the track at the"
  • "on April 20,[21] and at Glastonbury Festival on June 30" → "on April 20, 2019, and later that year at the Glastonbury Festival on June 30"
  • [21][22] should both be solely at the end of the sentence
  Not done since you need to add a citation for Coachella too --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "It was also performed at" → "It was also performed by her at"
  • "It was filmed in" → "The version was filmed in"
  • "the Greek Theatre. The visual shows" → "the Greek Theatre and it shows"
  • "with her brother and producer Finneas as" → "with O'Connell, while" or "with Finneas, while" if you change the introduction of him earlier on to stating "know under his stage name of Finneas"
  • Wikilink acoustic guitar to itself
  • "from thousands of fans’ mobile phones" → "from 1000s of fans' mobile phones"
  • "the sibling's rise slowly above the stage" → "the siblings rise slowly above the stage"
  • "When the track reaches it's conclusion" → "During the conclusion of the track"
  • "the bed is lowered" → "the bed that the two of them sat on is lowered"
  • Wikilink full moon to itself
  • "Eilish performed the song on the season premiere of" → "Eilish appeared on the 45th season premiere of" to avoid repetition, and add the target
  • "of the track with Finneas" → "of the track with O'Connell" but only if you don't add the stage name introduction

  Done

Credits and personnel edit

  • Use  – so there is the right space between credits and personnel
  Not done --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Charts edit

  • Good

Certifications edit

  • Good

References edit

  • Make sure all of these are archived using the tool
  • Copyvio score looks good at 36.3%
  • Ref 1 is not needed per my AllMusic comment for the Background and release section
  • Remove Tidal from the title of ref 2 and Bad Guy should be removed too; change the URL to linking to this track instead if that is the one linked
  • MOS:QWQ issues with ref 3
  • Ref 10 should cite his surname as Pareles instead
  • Remove target on Insider for ref 12
  • Refs 21 and 23 are from an unreliable source; remove or replace
  • Remove target on Variety for ref 22
  • YouTube should cite as publisher instead for ref 25 with the wikilink
  • Remove wikilink on NME for ref 26
  • MOS:QWQ issues with ref 27
  • Remove target on Billboard for ref 28 since the chart table invoked refs come before that and have it automatically
  • Ref 29 should cite Complex as work/website instead but keep the target since that is the page for the italicised magazine; fix MOS:QWQ issues too
  Not done since the quotes issues are still there --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • MOS:QWQ issues with refs 30 and 31
  • Ref 32 has its author in the wrong place and MOS:QWQ issues
  • Remove wikilink for Billie Eilish on ref 33 and target Darkroom to Darkroom Records
  Not done --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Kyle Peake I removed the source because the article already has a reliable source.   Done

Final comments and verdict edit

  •   On hold for now, but feel free to ask me if you have any queries! --Kyle Peake (talk) 21:10, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

user:Kyle Peake All of the issues should be fixed! DarklyShadows (talk) 02:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

DarklyShadows I'll plank the not done template on anything you missed. --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Kyle Peake That should be everything. DarklyShadows (talk) 06:52, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
DarklyShadows You still need to make the proposed ref 33 fix, which is now ref 32 --Kyle Peake (talk) 07:50, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
DarklyShadows I am talking about the ref on which you have not removed the target to Billie Eilish or targeted Darkroom to Darkroom Records --Kyle Peake (talk) 18:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Kyle Peake I think I fixed the issue. DarklyShadows (talk) 00:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
 Pass time! --Kyle Peake (talk) 05:15, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

user: Kyle Peake I thought I fixed that ref. I put Alex young in the right place and changed it to italics. DarklyShadows (talk) 09:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply