Talk:IRIB Ofogh

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Don't re-add the unsourced copyvio logo (File:Ofoghtv99.png) mkay? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@4nn1l2: Have you ever watched this? Any idea why that IP editor keeps adding that unsourced copyvio logo? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: I removed the file from Commons.

Regarding why an IP editor keeps adding it, I think that's just because a vast majority of Iranians have no idea about copyright. See Iran–United States copyright relations. The latest software, movies, books, etc are accessible in Iran almost freely. And you can guess the results. Virtually, nobody cares (or even knows) about copyright, unless some Wikipedians and free culture advocates (who are often mocked). Fawiki itself is a big refuge for copyvios. 4nn1l2 (talk) 06:28, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@4nn1l2: Thanks, I would have guessed as much (I found an Iranian IMDb clone once.. with download links ) and that does answer part of my question, but to phrase my question more specifically: why this logo? Their website doesn't work, so who knows whether they are even still on air. I was unable to verify that new logo as anything official. (as in that case I'd upload it here as fair use) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 09:40, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: This is their website: https://ofoghtv.com/

The shape of the logo (which is indeed the word Ofogh in Arabic script: افق [highly calligraphic so copyrighted]) is the same. However, the style does vary. But again, Iranian entities may change the style or color of their logos at will or arbitrarily.

I have not watched the channel even for one single minute, so I'm not familiar with it, but I will investigate more and inform you if I find anything useful. 4nn1l2 (talk) 10:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: OK. According to [1], the channel has been upgraded to HD quality and the style and color of its logo has been changed since 29 November 2020 (6 days ago). The IP was right. Their logo is not in solid color anymore. It has patterns, shades and other thingies. 4nn1l2 (talk) 10:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@4nn1l2: Thanks, I've updated the logo. If I may bother you a little more: do you think this Facebook profile and this YouTube channel are official? The YouTube link on ofoghtv.com interestingly links to https://www.aparat.com/ofogh_tv ("Aparat (Persian: آپارات, Âpârât) is an Iranian video sharing service like YouTube") which doesn't work but after checking archive.org this seems to be a video they uploaded there. I'm asking as these could be added to Wikidata. (if official) If it's no easier for you than it is for me to figure out, never mind, but I figure it might be easier for you. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: Hahahh... You are becoming more familiar with the Iranian culture which is full of hypocrisy :)

They indeed seem affiliated to me, but there is no easy way to confirm that they are official. Most of these platforms (including FB and YT) are banned in Iran. So they purposefully try to muddy the waters so at the right time, they can keep their distance from these foreign platforms.

This Apart channel which belongs to the Asr Media Group seems to be affiliated too, but I don't know (or care) what the relation between Asr Media Group and IRIB Ofogh is. There is also a progarm called "Asr" which you can see its logo on this very article (IRIB Ofogh). 4nn1l2 (talk) 12:36, 5 December 2020 (UTC)