Talk:IIHF European Champions Cup

Continental Cup -> IIHF European Champions Cup (or split?)

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Either this article IIHF European Champions Cup needs to be split up, or Continental Cup should be merged here, because the Continental Cup article duplicates everything here for that section. European Cup (ice hockey) and European Hockey League redirect here.

When we merge Continental Cup here, that page should be turned into a disambiguation page. It's a very generic name that should not be used. 70.51.8.97 10:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

If split, keep stats

Since each one of these tournaments is related, if they are spilt, we need to retain a combined list of winners for comparison. See what was done for football: Intercontinental Cup and FIFA Club World Cup statistics, that's what I mean. Kevlar67 09:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think they should be merged at all because while related, they are seperate and distinct. It would be like merging UEFA Cup and UEFA Champions League. Granted there is quite a bit of duplication, but it's more to describe the relationship they have and how the Euro club competitions work. Plus, more material specific to each competition can still be added, and this just doesn't seem like the right way to organise it. --Legalizeit 13:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

merge or split

All European championship articles should be merged together (most of them are right here already), or this article should be split apart, since most of it does not concern the "European Champions Cup" at all. 70.51.8.75 (talk) 06:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Split declined

Difficult to justify a split at this point as there is not enough material to be split out, and there are few reliable sources. I would suggest first building up each section until there is enough material to justify a split, then following the guidelines in WP:Summary style. SilkTork *^YES! 15:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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ECC winners list

This list should be reversed, to be like all others in this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.167.70.41 (talk) 13:44, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:EuropeanChampionsCupLogo.png

Fair use rationale completed. Flibirigit (talk) 06:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

CSKA Moscow

I'm not too sure that CSKA actually won the competition in all of those seasons, from the available statistics[1] many of the seasons are missing, perhaps these are years that Soviet teams wouldn't travel to certain places. Maybe CSKA just remained "holder" during this years. - Yorkshirian (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Split apart

This article seems to be WP:COATRACK, since it discusses two different championships that are not the "European Champions Cup", which occupy about half the article. These two sections need to be split off. 70.24.251.71 (talk) 21:08, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

European Cup

The Europa Cup section should be split off into a separate article that deals with that cup, same as we have articles for IIHF Super Cup and IIHF Continental Cup, since it is a different championship than the one that is nominally the topic of this article. 70.24.251.71 (talk) 21:08, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

European Hockey League

The "European Hockey League" section should be split off into a separate article that deals with that league, same as we have an article for Champions Hockey League, since it is a completely different thing, a hockey league and not a Cup, and so is a different topic than that which is nominally the topic of this article. 70.24.251.71 (talk) 21:08, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

Split tag removed, see split declined above. Article has not really improved. Op47 (talk) 11:34, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Restructuring and copy edit

I have done a thorough restructuring of this article, along with a copy edit (as part of the wp:goce March copy-editing drive).

The restructuring is intended to address concerns that this article was a wp:coatrack and had off-topic sections. If someone wants to expand the European Cup section or the European Hockey League section into an article, it should be easy to extract those sections from this article, leaving behind a one-sentence summary and a link, without damaging the article's structure. I have removed all of the off-topic/coatrack/copyedit tags. Jonesey95 (talk) 04:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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