Talk:Hurricane Allison (1995)

Merge

Too little info, not notable enough. This can be easily merged. Hurricanehink 16:11, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Despite my extensive copyedit, I tend to agree. Jdorje 06:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. I have posted a merge template. We should have enough consensus to merge it soon. This article should not be. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 22:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Agreed. One of the few articles which I believe shouldn't exist. The only non-notable Allison. CrazyC83 06:10, 23 December 2005 (UTC) With many new articles being created, I decided to get back to work on this one. CrazyC83 04:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Based on the consensus, what should be kept and what should be cut out? I say a shortened early formation, shortened storm history, and slightly condensed impact section. I just say that because keeping the entire section would negate the purpose of merging it back. Hurricanehink 02:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

All useful info should be moved to the main article section (if it isn't already there) and then the article should be redirected to the main article, standard procedure. Based on the consensus of five users, I deem it appropriate to conduct the merge now. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 18:24, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Todo

Any more impact? The article relies on only a few sources, so there's probably more info. Did you check HPC's rainfall map for this storm? That should be added, and it has rainfall for SE United States. Also, the fact that operationally it was a hurricane at landfall should be mentioned. The NCDC probably has more; you should check there. All in all, good redo, but still needs more info for B class. Hurricanehink (talk) 05:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know it was operationally a hurricane at landfall. I never went to those sources; I'll do that later. CrazyC83 05:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Yea. It was also considered to be the earliest U.S. hurricane landfall in a long time, but not so in the aftermath. The NHC has news reports and local reports that should be worked in. Hurricanehink (talk) 05:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I added the rainfall pic, but can you give me the link that mentions allison's landfall as a hurricane operationally? íslenskur fellibylur #12 _(samtal) 03:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Mostly just unofficial news reports that don't say it explicitly. In fact, it's mostly things like this, which, by the way it is worded, implies it was a hurricane at landfall, though there was uncertainty. Also, this public advisory just before landfall has it as a hurricane. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

There, I added that stuff, but is there a source for formerly being the earliest US hurricane landfall? íslenskur fellibylur #12 _(samtal) 12:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Not sure. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Crazy, could you add the NCDC event report information? I consider that a must for any WPTC article. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

GA on Hold

I've put the GA nomination on hold based on my review of the article.

• Well-written- Pretty good - two typos, though overall writing is decent. Phrases in parenthesis should be avoided. The storm history could use another look-through to smoothen things out and make sure everything is there.
• Factually accurate and verifiable - Good
• Broad in coverage - I'd like to see more links that aren't from NHC
• Non-POV - Good
• Stable - Good
• Images - Good, though more satellite images never hurt

Hurricanehink (talk) 04:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed from my vantage point. CrazyC83 02:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. Hurricanehink (talk) 05:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

GA Sweeps Review: Pass

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 30 October 2016

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. While the supporters have pointed out that the 1995 storm was the only storm named "Hurricane Allison", the opposition counter that the 2001 storm was more significant. Unlike the storms, neither argument seems to be stronger here, so the status quo will remain. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:05, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hurricane Allison (1995) → Hurricane Allison – Only hurricane named Allison, but I can understand if this doesn't pass because of the 2001 storm. Jdcomix (talk) 14:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose even if Hurrican Allison (2001) is not a redirect. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:09, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:50, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. --219.79.127.251 (talk) 12:49, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Given that the Texas one was not a Hurricane it's not really a fully legitimate contender for the title, even allowing for people mistakenly thinking it was a hurricane. I think hatnotes are perfectly sufficient to differentiate the two.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:49, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. There seems to be a general consolidation of all tropical storms of the same name (including hurricanes, cyclones, and typhoons) to a single disambiguation page. I think a broader policy decision would need to be made first. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 08:19, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
• Weak support - Unless the 2001 hurricane is proven to be notable, remove the unnecessary year dab for now. George Ho (talk) 23:48, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
• Strong oppose. The 2001 storm is far, far more notable, even if this was the only incarnation to reach hurricane strength. --Dylan620 ^{(I'm all ears)} 00:45, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. The 2001 storm is still commonly called "Hurricane Allison", even if it technically wasn't one,[1] and it was the much more prominent storm.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:28, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. Despite being the only storm of the aforementioned name to achieve hurricane intensity, the 2001 cyclone is far more significant. In my honest opinion, moving this article does not make much sense as it might insinuate confusion between this one and its 2001 successor if the move were successful. Vedanara2 (talk) 23:55, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
• Strong Support. This was the only Allison incarnate that was a hurricane, therefore I support that it be called "Hurricane Allison" Josiah W. 00:18, 30 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jw133102 (talk • contribs)

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Requested move 8 February 2017

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The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Request opened by block-evader. NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:07, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hurricane Allison (1995) → Hurricane Allison – Only one hurricane named Allison. 219.79.250.146 (talk) 00:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. SkyWarrior 02:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose as nothing has changed since the previous discussion. 2001's Allison is vastly more notable, and while it had a different classification, the potential for confusion is high. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:03, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose via the previous discussion. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 04:10, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
• Support as "Hurricane Allison" and "Tropical Storm Allison" are clearly different. It doesn't make sense to redirect the hurricane page to a disambiguation about tropical storms. Laurdecl ^talk 06:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
  • It's been my experience throughout the years that many readers are not inherently familiar with the distinction between a tropical storm and a hurricane. After all, they're the exact same phenomena, just assigned to a different part of an arbitrary classification scale. The difference between "Tropical Storm" Allison and "Hurricane" Allison was a mere 15 miles per hour. Given that both of these storms affected the same region, the US Gulf Coast, in the same general era, I really do think TS Allison is the primary topic. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 13:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose storms seem to be one of those areas like WikiProject ships where the shortest title is not always the most beneficial to readers. The fact that all these articles have been sitting happily with (year) attached suggests that there was consensus on WikiProject Weather at an earlier time to do so. What changed? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:29, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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