Talk:History of Slovenia

Independence of Slovenia or Dissolution of Yugoslavia?

Although it's nice that new material was added to the article, I really wonder whether so much detail about the dissolution of Yugoslavia is necessary, especially about the happenings in other republics. This is an article about the history of Slovenia, and subsequently about Slovenia's indepdnence from SFRY not about the whole break-up of Yugoslavia, after all. edolen1 14:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

a better map

This map of Slovenia's territory under Roman Empire has got to be a joke or something. The names are false!!!!!! It was not Longatikum, but Longaticum. It is not Tergestum, but Tergeste. And Ptuj was certainly not called Petoviona by some imagined Germano-Romans. And WHAT THE BLEEP is Clagenfurtum doing in the Roman Empire? Or Marburgum for that matter? How about Ljubljanum? And Solva was called properly 'ſlavium Solvense'. The 'tribes' are also a joke. Who are Noricums supposed to be? Or Latobics? But the 'Yazis' top them all. And where are Carni? Find a better map. This map could be made by a Joerg Haider's voter. Here is one better map:

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/forvm/Articles/Maps/images/Map_Ancient_Vindelicia_and_Illyricum_1900pix.jpg

and another one

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17124/17124-h/images/vindelicia.jpg

and for Venetia and Histria

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17124/17124-h/images/italaeseptentrionis.jpg

After recent studies, it was decided that the correct name of Ptuj was in fact Petoviona. The name Poetovio was only used for a short period. This is because the romans usaly named the there cities in femenim. The longest name the city had was in the time of emperor Traian. Then it was named Colonia Ulpia Traiana (not sure if it was Poetovio then or Petoviona). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.142.108.234 (talk)

I have to agree with "89.142.108.234". There are obvious mistakes in this map. Someone should improve it before using it again.Navportus 19:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

History (invasion in the 6th century?)

Hi! Your editions (in favour of a supposed invasion of slavs in the 6th century are erasing or treating in a despective way the "Veneti Theory".

1.- there are no proofs of the "Carpatian Theory" you show as an undisputed historical fact

2.- PhD Charles Bryant-Abraham, is an important Linguist and presented a favourable point of view to the "Veneti Theory", so not all the supporters of the Veneti Theory are "Amateur" or "ignorant" in this point. http://www.angelfire.com/country/veneti/Bryant-AbrahamVenetiReview.html

3.- Genetics are demostrating slovenes descendant o indigenous people of Europe http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/skulj/origin_of_the_slavs.html

I am getting tired of this. I am new in Wikipedia, but this nostalgic yugoslavism is really showing only one side of the coin. A NPOV must show the Veneti Teory without any pejorative quotatios.

Greetings from Argentina --Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 18:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

If fringe-theory rejection on Wiki makes you tired, you must be fairly exhausted by now. Without Reliable Sources backing up this claptrap, it can't go into the article. 68.19.10.141 (talk) 12:57, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Slovenglish?

"The politicans of the Hungarian Slovenes in 1918 was like beget of a autonomous entity in Hungary or a second Slovene states in the Prekmurje with name Slovene krajina, and thus member-state of Yugoslavia. Through the long discussions and the communism was not evolve the krajina." --Marschner (talk) 21:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Fix it then. Viator slovenicus (talk) 14:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Can't because I don't understand it. The additional -i- in the first noun didn't help either. --Marschner (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in History of Slovenia

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of Slovenia's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Times":

• From Divje Babe flute: "Neanderthal Man Moves Up the Evolutionary Scale" Times (London), April 5, 1997.
• From Slovenian presidential election, 2007: Fletcher, Martin (2007-11-15). "All hail the mystic President". London: Times Online. Retrieved 2008-09-05.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

World War II - Fascist crimes

While I believe the section on the interwar period is well-written, I have noticed that the section on World War II lacks some very important and essential information regarding the Italian Fascist occupation. There is nothing about the war crimes commited by the Fascists, nothing about the summary executions, of not only resistance fighters, but also civilians, including children. Nothing about the burnings of hundreds of villages, or about the fact that Ljubljana was literally turned into a concentration camp in 1942 as the Fascists surrounded it with a barbed wire fence, or about the internment camps where many people died due to inhumane conditions, not only resistance fighters, but also civilians who were taken there, including many children. It wasn't only the Nazi occupation that was criminal and cruel, it was also the Fascist one.

One would think that the person who wrote the section was trying to conceal these facts. I can't think of any other reasonable explanation for why they would leave them out, except perhaps that the person doesn't know about them. But I find that hard to believe as the person seems to know about the Foibe massacres and the Italian exodus. While these events were certainly wrong and criminal, I believe it is important to put them in context, in the frame of everything that happened before. These things pale in comparison to the Fascist atrocities commited, and therefore it is surprising that the Fascist crimes are not even mentioned in the World War II section.

Aside from this fact, I also think there should be a bit more about the Nazi occupation, as well as the actions of collaborationist forces (who commited crimes as well). Overall, I get the impression that the author was trying to stress the crimes commited by the Yugoslav Army, and sort of just mention the ones by the opponents..In the case of Fascist Italy, not even that. As well as in the case of collaborationists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.176.181.157 (talk) 07:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to expand what you think is insufficient. Around here, everybody is an author. — Yerpo ^Eh? 18:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

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Carantania as Avar(Turkic) territory

According to the history, Slavs were slaves(this is also the word where "Slav" comes from) to Avars. And they were suborditated under their Turkish-Carantanian masters. The term Carantania could have been of totally Avaric(Turkish) origin! Kara as "black" and "tan" as "dawn".

No, that is not where the word "Slav" comes from - that's a widespread myth. See the article on Slavs. 68.19.10.141 (talk) 12:48, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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