Talk:Herbert Hoover Jr.

Latest comment: 10 years ago by 207.245.177.12 in topic Middle name

Middle name

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Herbert Hoover, Jr.'s legal name was Herbert Charles Hoover; he was named after his father, Herbert Clark Hoover, and maternal grandfather, Charles Delano Henry. Despite having a different middle name, the younger Hoover chose to represent himself as Herbert Hoover, Jr.

For official registration of HH Jr.'s birth, see FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. See also Genealogy of the Herbert Hoover Family by Hulda Hoover McLean (revised edition published West Branch, IA: Herbert Hoover Presidential Library Association, 1995).207.245.177.12 (talk) 18:26, 15 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Jr.?

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This just pedantry, but Herbert Charles Hoover - despite having the same initials and first name as his father - is NOT a Jr. President Hoover's middle name was Clark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.28.26 (talk) 21:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)Reply


I agree, he is not Junior. correction is needed to name and page name. Collision-Shift (talk) 05:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

This is true, but ignores the fact that Herbert Clark Hoover and Herbert Charles Hoover both, in practice, referred to the son as Herbert Hoover, Jr. Numerous examples can be given, including HH Sr.'s Memoirs (available at http://www.ecommcode.com/hoover/ebooks/browse.cfm) and HH Jr.'s gravestone (see http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=20002). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.245.177.12 (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

"Special Envoy, 1953—1954" doesn't make sense

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The information in the section "Special Envoy, 1953—1954" doesn't make sense. In particular, the following sentence:

"He ultimately worked out a deal whereby, in August 1954, the National Iranian Oil Company became a consortium owned 40% by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company; 40% to be divided equally (8% each) among the five major American companies; British Petroleum to have a 40% share; Royal Dutch Shell to have 14%; and the Compagnie Française des Pétroles, a French Company, to receive 6%."

The math here doesn't add up. It lists the following percentages of ownership:

  • 40% by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company
  • 40% to be divided equally (8% each) among the five major American companies
  • 40% by British Petroleum
  • 14% by Royal Dutch Shell
  • 6% by Compagnie Française des Pétroles

That adds up to 140%. Does anyone know what the actual percentages should be? Gabefarkas (talk) 13:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)Reply


per National_Iranian Oil Company
The founding members of IOP included British Petroleum (40%), Gulf (later Chevron, 8%), Royal Dutch Shell (14%), and Compagnie Française des Pétroles (later Total S.A., 6%). The four Aramco partners - Standard Oil of California (SoCal, later Chevron) - Standard Oil of New Jersey (later Exxon, then ExxonMobil) - Standard Oil Co. of New York (later Mobil, then ExxonMobil) - Texaco (later Chevron) - each held a 8% stake in the holding company.
40+8+14+6+(4*8)=100% Think it should be corrected for mathematical and grammatical sense like so...

"He ultimately worked out a deal whereby, in August 1954, the National Iranian Oil Company became a consortium owned 40% by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (each of the five major American companies obtaining 8% ownership); British Petroleum to have a 40% share; Royal Dutch Shell to have 14%; and the Compagnie Française des Pétroles, a French Company, to receive 6%."
Collision-Shift (talk) 05:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply