Talk:Haji Mirza Aqasi

Latest comment: 3 years ago by LouisAragon in topic Yerevan located in which province?

Yerevan located in which province? edit

Hiya @LouisAragon:, I was wondering if you know the name of the Qajar province that Yerevan belonged to? --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

@HistoryofIran: Yerevan belonged to the Erivan Khanate, i.e. "Chokhur-e Sa'd", i.e., "Yerevan Province". During the greater part of the 18th century, until the Russian conquests, it was considered to be a province (beglarbegi) by all rulers in mainland Iran just like the other khanates. BTW, a lot of new works,[1]-[2] have recently been published which contain good maps and top info on the Qajar domains in the Caucasus. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LouisAragon: I see, thanks; You don't happen to currently possess a source(s) that states what you just said? (that it was considered a province, etc etc) I would like to add it in the article, or least have it on me for use in the future. Those sources looks interesting, shame about their price tho x). --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
By all means. This should do the trick:
  • "The term khanate refers to an area that was governed by hereditary or appointed governors with the title of khan or beglerbegi who performed a military and/or administrative function for the central goverment. By the nineteenth century, there were nine such khanates in Transcaucasia (...) -- The Khanate of Erevan Under Qajar Rule: 1795-1828, George Bournoutian, Mazda Pub (1992), page xxiii
  • "Iranians, in order to save the rest of eastern Armenia, heavily subsidized the region and appointed a capable governor, Hosein Qoli Khan, to administer it." -- A Concise History of the Armenian People: (from Ancient Times to the Present), George Bournoutian, Mazda Publishers (2002), page 215
  • "Realizing the strategic value of the region after the loss of Karabagh, Ganjeh, and Georgia, Fath-'Ali Shah, 'Abbas Mirza (the commander of the Iranian forces), and Hosein Qoli Khan Qajar (the new governor of Yerevan) decided to work (...)" -- The Armenians of Iran: The Paradoxical Role of a Minority in a Dominant Culture ; Articles and Documents, Cosroe Chaquèri, Center for Middle Eastern Studies of Harvard University (1998), page 68.
  • ḤOSAYNQOLI KHAN SARDĀR-E IRAVĀNI; important governor in the early Qajar period (b. ca. 1742, d. 1831). (...) Requiring a strong and loyal governor to command the fortress of Erevan against the Russian advances during the first Russo-Persian War (1804-13), the shah appointed Ḥosaynqoli as the commander-in-chief (sardār) of the Persian forces north of the Araxes (Aras) River (Freygang, p. 284) -- BOURNOUTIAN, GEORGE A. "ḤOSAYNQOLI KHAN SARDĀR-E IRAVĀNI". Encyclopædia Iranica.
  • "The Khan Hosein Qoli Khan's efficient administration soon transformed the region. He modeled his bureaucracy on that of the central government, dividing power between tribal and settled groups". -- Eastern Armenia in the last decades of Persian rule, 1807-1828: a political and socioeconomic study of the khanate of Erevan on the eve of the Russian conquest, George Bournoutian, Undena Publications (1982), page 86.
  • "The khans of Yerevan and Nakhjavan were both removed in 1805 by the shah on the grounds of disloyalty. (...) The new khan of Yerevan, Hosein Qoli, was one of the most able men in Fath' Ali's government and ruled Yerevan from 1807 until its conquest by the Russians in 1827." -- Russia and Iran, 1780-1828, Muriel Atkin, U of Minnesota Press (1980), page 89
  • George A. Bournoutian. "The 1819 Russian Survey of the Khanate of Sheki: A Primary Source on the Demography and Economy of an Iranian Province Prior to Its Annexation by Russia", (Mazda Publishers, 2016).
  • "Erevan's more stable finances during the tenure of the last khan permitted its divan to grant only a small portion (12.6 percent) of its lands in this manner. During Hosein Qoli Khan's governorship, the system of tiyul functioned efficiently as an alternative to direct treasury cash payments for services to the state." -- The Khanate of Erevan Under Qajar Rule: 1795-1828, George Bournoutian, Mazda Pub (1992), page 129
  • "In essence the Erevan administration, like its counterpart in Tehran, was organized into three branches (...)" -- Eastern Armenia in the last decades of Persian rule, 1807-1828: a political and socioeconomic study of the khanate of Erevan on the eve of the Russian conquest, George Bournoutian, Undena Publications (1982), page 86.
  • "After fleeing his regiment, Makintsev gave himself up to the Iranians, entered Abbas Mirza's service, and was appointed as na'ib (lieutenant) in one of the new nizam-i jadid infantry regiments, the fawj-i Erivan (the Erivan regiment), named after one of the threatened Caucasian provinces." -- Cronin, Stephanie (2013). "Deserters, convicts, Cossacks". in Cronin, Stepanie, ed. Iranian-Russian Encounters: Empires and Revolutions Since 1800. pp. 148-149
  • George A. Bournoutian. "The 1829-1832 Russian Surveys of the Khanate of Nakhichevan (Nakhjavan): A Primary Source on the Demography and Economy of an Iranian Province Prior to Its Annexation by Russia", (Mazda Publishers, 2016).
  • "Even when rulers on the plateau lacked the means to effect suzerainty beyond the Aras, the neighboring Khanates were still regarded as Iranian dependencies. (...) Agha Muhammad Khan, as proof of his suzerainty over them, had minted gold and silver coins in Erivan, and silver ones in Ganja, Nukha (the capital of Shakki), and Shamikha (the capital of Shirvan), just as he had done in Yazd, Isfahan or Tabriz. There was nothing peculiar in this: he regarded them all, as the Safavids and Nadir Shah had done, as Iranian cities. Fath Ali Shah did the same. Before the outbreak of war with Russia in 1804, he struck gold and silver coins at the Erivan and Ganja mints, and silver ones at Nukha." -- p. 146, Cambridge History of Iran, Vol. 7
  • "It is important to note, however, that despite the unfounded claims of some Azeri historians, there was no united anti-Iranian movement, nor any regional, ethnic, or national identity, or plans for an independent state. The short-lived efforts of King Erekle II, Ebrahim Khan of Qarabagh, and Fath ʿAli Khan of Qobbeh to establish total hegemony over the South Caucasus all ended in failure. Such assertions have become more common among Azeri historians after 1989; for example, see, Dzh. M. Mustafaev, Severnye khanstva Azerbaidzhana i Rossiia (Baku, 1989) and E. Babaev, Iz istorii giandzhinskogo khanstva (Baku, 2003). In fact, after Stalin’s failure to annex Iranian Azarbayjan in 1946, Soviet historians not only proclaimed that the khanates were never part of Iran and were independent entities, but began (and have continued to do so after 1991) to refer to Iranian Azarbayjan as south Azerbaijan, which had been separated from north Azerbaijan, see V. Leviatov, Ocherki iz istorii Azerbaidzhana v XVIII veke (Baku, 1948). Such absurd notions are completely negated by Article III of the Golestan Treaty and Article I of the treaties between Russia and the khans of Qarabagh, Shakki and Shirvan; see Appendix 4." -- Bournoutian, George (2021). "Georgia and the Khanates of South Caucasus in the Second Half of the Eighteenth Century" in From the Kur to the Aras: A Military History of Russia’s Move into the South Caucasus and the First Russo-Iranian War, 1801-1813. Brill. p. 249 (note 4)
  • "Serious historians and geographers agree that after the fall of the Safavids, and especially from the mid-eighteenth century, the territory of the South Caucasus was composed of the khanates of Ganja, Kuba, Shirvan, Baku, Talesh, Sheki, Karabagh, Nakhichivan and Yerevan, all of which were under Iranian suzerainty." -- Bournoutian, George A. (2016). The 1820 Russian Survey of the Khanate of Shirvan: A Primary Source on the Demography and Economy of an Iranian Province prior to its Annexation by Russia. Gibb Memorial Trust. p. xvii.
- LouisAragon (talk) 19:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I might try to obtain Bournoutian's 2020 book at some point in the future, I agree it looks really interesting. You can access all of its maps for free though already.[3] BTW you can access Bournoutians Eastern Armenia in the Last Decades of Persian Rule, 1807-1828: A Political and Socioeconomic Study of the Khanate of Erevan on the Eve of the Russian Conquest (1982) for free right here. It is filled with more basic information about the Erivan khanate/province. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
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