Talk:Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2002

GA Review

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Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 13:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll take this review. If you have time, please consider starting one of your own: the backlog at WP:GAN is long. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm just visiting this to give the polite suggestion a reviewer takes a good look at source adherence. Kingsif (talk) 03:00, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

That is the basic duty of a GA reviewer Kingsif, and I will additionally note that your article was nominated by a different editor than for this one. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   See #Comments below.

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   See #Comments below.

Random source spot-check

• 2 fine
• 3 fine
• 10 AGF but based on basic Greek knowledge, probably fine
• 17 fine
• 25 fine
• 28 not sure if it's necessary, but it's fine source-text-wise

Spot-check passed

Comments

• "Ellinikós Telikós 2002 was the Greek national final developed by ERT" is somewhat unclear. "Final" as in final competition? Do you "develop" a final?
• I have edited a couple of sentences for better grammar/punctuation/clarity.
• "Ten songs competed" songs don't compete—perhaps performers or artists do?
• Is the youtube citation really necessary?

Putting this on temporary hold; just a few comments to resolve. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:50, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29: Thanks for the review! I piped national final to National selections for the Eurovision Song Contest. I guess I hadn't realized that it was a jargony term. I changed the "songs" to "entries". I want to say performers, but since some songs were by groups that got weird. The Youtube link is more of a courtesy. I could just cite the existence of the event itself without a link, but since the Youtube video was posted by the broadcaster itself, I included it for additional verifiability; it serves as the only ref for some of the info. Grk1011 (talk) 13:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 11:06, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

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• Article history

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• ... that Michalis Rakintzis said in a press conference that he "came close to throwing down my microphone and walking off the stage" during his performance at the 2002 Eurovision Song Contest? Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2018477.stm , https://web.archive.org/web/20020614095629/http://www.musiccorner.gr/news/euro2002/02.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Dini

Improved to Good Article status by Grk1011 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 23:45, 29 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2002; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is at 188 characters which isn't technically over the limit but is cutting it close. Could the hook be shortened? Perhaps the words "in a press conference" could be taken out. Otherwise, no problems with this nomination. AGF on Greek sources in the article. Riley1012 (talk) 16:59, 3 May 2023 (UTC)