Talk:Game Boy Micro/Archive 1

Archive 1

Yes, it has a Z80

Before, the article said that Nintendo removed the Z80, so it no longer played GBC games. The hardware switch to select GBC mode is also removed. However, the system still can enter GBC mode from a crashing GBA program, and it excecutes the GBC's bootrom, so it clearly still has the Z80. But the GB Micro is unable to read anything from a GBC cartridge. Maybe it's because GBC cartridges use a different voltage.--Dwedit (talk) 01:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

GBC compatibility

Has anyone at the conference asked a Nintendo rep about Game Boy original games? I have a DS, but I want something small to play Tetris original on. The Micro would be perfect if it could do it. --Carl 05:14, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

I'll look into this - I imagine since its the same tech as the GBA and the GBA SP that it plays Game Boy games. K1Bond007 16:27, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Yes. The official word from Nintendo is that it does everything a GBA SP does. K1Bond007 22:17, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! Carl 11:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

By "official word" do you refer to this press release? If so, then it appears wrong in a slight detail: the snap-on controller for DDR GB will fit on a Game Boy Color or a GBA SP but not the Micro. --Damian Yerrick 04:38, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Various interviews during E3 as well. As stated, it plays everything that a GBA or GBA SP does. If theres additional hardware required that's specifically made for a different system, then apparently not, but if the game can be played without it then yes it can. K1Bond007 04:57, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

I asked a few reps at E3, and they told me that it would not play classic games. I found that disappointing and surprising. The press release that Damian Yerrick linked to does say "Game Boy Micro has the same processing power and plays the same games as Game Boy Advance SP models", but that still doesn't feel definitive enough. Has Nintendo actually officially said "Yes, this will play GB and GBC games" yet? -- Plutor 18:46, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Not specifically (one way or the other), but would they from a marketing stand point say that it plays all the games a GBA SP does, knowing that it doesn't play original GB games? IGN makes the claim that it does, "Better yet, it will play all the GBA and Game Boy games currently handled by the GBA SP" [1]. Surprisingly there isn't much press about it beyond articles regurgitating the Nintendo press release. K1Bond007 18:51, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

I reworded it till there's official confirmation from Nintendo one way or another. K1Bond007 18:57, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

I've heard from sources that they've removed the GB and GBC slots(???) to make it smaller. I'm not sure what they mean but I think it has somethjing to do with the data transaction from the cartridges and the Game Boy...

The ability for the GBA to play GameBoy and GameBoy Color games comes from the fact that it has a Z80 microprocessor (in addition to the RISC chip for GBA games). The cartidges use the same slot size, but unless the chip is in there it won't be able to play those legacy cartridges. Perhaps if there is a spec sheet for the innards this could be put to rest. Mee Ronn 07:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Another report by Nintendo. This one specifically says, " It weighs an astonishing 2.8 ounces, yet Game Boy Micro has the same processing power and plays the same games as Game Boy Advance SP models." K1Bond007 20:16, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

I wish I had turned one around while I had it in my hands at E3. -- Plutor 15:02, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

An article from 1up.com states this: "On the other hand, the Micro also lacks support for those older games even though it bears the name Game Boy. Reportedly, the company fears that having the larger format cartridges sticking out of the slim machine would compromise its "sex appeal." Zooba 19:44, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

This sounds like a case of marketoid logic. Does anybody have old press releases before the DS was released, as it supports GBA games, but does not support GB, SGB, and GBC games. If Nintendo also claimed that the DS supports every game that the GBA does, then we can be pretty sure that when they say the same thing for the GBM, that they are not implying compatibility with GB, SGB, and GBC games. How such claims would not constitute false advertising is beyond me. Luke 10:00, 22 August (CST)

I haven't checked the US pages, but the Japanese promo page states categorically that it won't work with "Game Boy Series Cartridges." So, the question has been definitively answered in the negative. It's a shame too, since otherwise I would have gotten one. --Carl 03:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

The lack of GB/GBC compatibility might have been done for the same reason as the DS -- older cartridges require different voltages, and adding support for such would have a significant effect on battery life. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 06:30, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Release date

Released in "fall" in the northern hemishpere? Released at that time in the U.S.? Come on, folks. A Q# release is more suitable for internationality, either way. - Vague | Rant 08:25, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Nintendo specifically said later this "fall". They didn't say anything else. Their press release says the same thing. K1Bond007 16:27, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

This is a pet peeve of mine. I wish that when English speakers started visiting the Southern Hemisphere, they had just said, "Wow, here winter is hot and summer is cold," instead of "Wow, here winter is in June, and summer is in December." It would have made a lot more sense, especially when you consider that a large part of the world doesn't even experience the same four season cycle. Oh well, too late to fix it now. :( …unless I can get the Australian government to pass a law. --Carl 11:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm sure the Australian Nintendo website might say something different. When you see fall, you might as well say "out before the holidays." K1Bond007 14:37, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Or it could mean Q4 2005 in Japan, North America, and Europe, and Q2 2006 in Australia and New Zealand. --Damian Yerrick

The North America release has fallen to criticism with a formal release of September 19 many stores threw the date out the window and many have delayed it until September 26 or as late as September 30.

This sentence is absolutely horrible. Could someone who can tell what it means rephrase it? —Frungi 04:27, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

New Link

If someone can, i've got a new link from the nintendo site, with some pretty cool faceplate concept designs. Can anyone put this up? faceplates

those are micro faceplates made by various companies to celebrate Mario's 20th aniversary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Camtin (talk • contribs) 16:27, 21 November 2005 (UTC).

NES Controller

It looks so much like an original NES controller, does anyone think that Nintendo might be releasing a NES 'skin' for it? --Tonsofpcs 06:53, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I sure hope so ;)

There's already a Famicom faceplate. I'm sure there'll be a NES design for the US. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 21:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

• Player 1 controller design
• Player 2 controller design

At Nintendo's recent summit event Reggie said that it was possible although they currently had no plans to. Deathawk 17:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Best screen so far?

"Quoted as being the best screen in a Nintendo handheld thus far."

Any evidence of this? Or just more Nintendo fanboy BS?

It's truth. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:19, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Current reviews online have stated the GBM screen as being clearer and brighter than the SP, DS, and even the PSP. The reviews generally agree that the small screen size is not an issue for most people. I'll try to get some actual quotes and reference them in the article. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 20:41, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

At E3 Reggie was quoted as saying something of that nature, so even if it's not true (which seems doubtful at this point.) it's Nintendo's official line. Deathawk 17:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

I dont think that Gameboy Micro is really appropriate since there is already about a million different types of "Gameboys" on the market already. The button are too small for your fingers!! Just when you thought personal gaming devices could get no smaller, WRONG!!!

Actually, although the system itself is small, the B and A buttons are larger than they are on the GBA and GBA SP, as well as the D-pad, which is similar in size to the one on the DS. However, reviews for the Micro have criticized the awkward L and R buttons, which hinge at the corner instead of on the top of the unit. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 22:40, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. Take this debate elsewhere please. :-) --Carl 16:21, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Even though the policy says to not use the talk page, there is no harm in it, seeing as they are discussing the "form" and "feel" of the handheld. Lighten up Carl. ;) Havok (T/C) 16:27, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm new to Wikipedia, but the headline of the area we're talking in is called "discussion." Is there harm in doing something the "rules" say that we can do? Besides, its great feedback! Good job Havok! Is Carl some kind of moderator or something?sentinelred 14:52, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

The Gameboy Micro is excellent, its great for playing games instead of paying attention during school.

From the what Wikipedia is not page:

"Discussion forums (or Everything2 nodes). Please try to stay on the task of creating an encyclopedia. You can chat with folks on their user talk pages, and should resolve problems with articles on the relevant talk pages, but please do not take discussion into articles. "

So I'd say it's ok to talk amongst ourselves just as long as the article doesn't get involed in our shenanigans. Deathawk 17:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

New Games For GameBoy Micro

Surely the Mario Kart game for GameBoy Micro would be called Mario Kart: Hyper Circuit known as Mario Kart Micro in Japan. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zachkudrna18@yahoo.com (talk • contribs) 10:36, 14 December 2005 (UTC).

The first Mario game for GameBoy Micro would be called Super Mario Micro. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zachkudrna18@yahoo.com (talk • contribs) 11:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC).

Sixth Gen?

I'd say even though it's part of the Gameboy line, it should go under the Seventh Generation because that's when it was released. The DS kicked off the Seventh Generation and the Micro was released afterwards. Doug teh H-Nut 22:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

But the DS isn't a Game Boy.--▄█ Benol █▄ 23:23, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

The Micro is just another variant of the Advance line. It is a redesign, not a completely new console. -- ReyBrujo 23:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree with ReyBrujo, it's just a revamp of the Advance. 6th gen all the way. Chorazin 00:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Mini Wireless adapter?

"Included in the Micro package is a mini-Wireless Adapter."

I don't know about you guys, but mine didn't come with one. Is this a mistake? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.67.38.21 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC).

This is bullshit, it doesn't come with that. Xizer 07:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

I added that. Someone on the GameFAQs board said that it came with a mini-Wireless Adapter, a small version. I guess not. Hbdragon88 20:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Moving/Renaming article to "Game Boy micro"

I think this article should be renamed Game Boy micro. This is the proper capitalization, and it is how Nintendo spells it. Here is an example. [2]. On their official Game Boy site it's spelled "micro" [3] [4]

I even bought a micro, and in all the instruction manuals and packaging, it is called the "Game Boy micro." I even scanned a page from my micro's instruction manual, and another insert that came with it. Look at them here, for further evidence to back up my claim: micro.jpg (214 KB) Xizer 07:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Image isn't loading for me; try ImageShack. If it should indeed be renamed with a lowercase "m," then feel free to revert my edits; I reverted your edits based on this edit that said that "Micro" should be capitzlied. Hbdragon88 20:37, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, well XMG Free is down, so I've ImageShack'd it here: click here Xizer 22:43, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Limited Edition?

I read on the current US Game Boy website that the GBA micro is now officially a limited edition product. Whether this is a sign of slow sales- or just a marketing ploy, I cannot tell. Can anyone confirm this or get some more information on this before we go and edit the main article? Game Boy Micro Website --User:camtin

I think the official website is confirmation enough. It seems that the Micro will be discontinued at some point in the future. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 22:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for putting the update up there, I'll keep an eye out for more info--User:camtin

If you read the site correctly, you would notice that the micro system is not limited edition, but that faceplate/system color(red) is.

The website has been changed since I posted the information. It referred to the GBM as a "limited edition Game Boy" before adding the content regarding the Famicom controller faceplate. I'd point you to internetarchive.org, but it doesn't store Flash content. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 05:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah the Limited Edition refers to the faceplates, Nintendo only plans to run a limited number of each faceplate, too add to the idea of the system being "customizable" when a print runs out however Nintendo will introduce a new faceplate. 68.231.57.251 17:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

That may be true, but the system itself is limited edition according to the website. Click here Game Boy Micro Website , and click on either the black or the silver system. Technically the faceplates are limited, but so is the unit. You'll see under the text reads, "Game Boy micro - get it before it's gone!" next to the huge "Limited Edition" logo. It's still there, clear as day. As soon as someone else confirms this, I'll put it back on the article, but please no comments unless you actually click on the link and click on the different icons. camtin 02:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I checked the link the above poster mentioned, and it still implies that the 20th aniversary faceplate/system color unit is limited edition, not the gameboy micro system in general.

Did you click on the other Gameboy systems? When you click on the other faceplate/systems, it says: "Game Boy micro - get it before it's gone!" next to the huge "Limited Edition" logo- thats for EVERY version of the system. camtin 06:37, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

On a messge board I frequent, someone emailed Nintendo asking if the Gameboy is limited edition. Nintendo responded that it had no plans to discontinue the Gameboy Micro. link to topic: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000108&topic=25080200 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.209.106.211 (talk • contribs) 12:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC).

Sigh, it's been purged. Hbdragon88 05:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Requested move 1

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Game Boy micro → Game Boy Micro – Someone moved this to the official trademark title. I'm not certain if this is correct; WP:MOS-TM says that common usage is preferred. The "micro" could be argued as decorative, just like the Macy's example, but I'm not certain. Hbdragon88 20:33, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Voting

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• Oppose. See IPod nano. JSIN 11:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support, WP:MOS-TM is clear that special capitalization rules should not be used. "Game Boy Micro" is the common usage. iPod nano should be renamed as well. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 14:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support. Why is it lowercase, anyway? All the other GBs have capitals. --82.7.125.142 15:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Not moved. —Nightstallion (?) 08:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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Refresh rate

A user recently brought up the issue of the refresh rate of the Micro. The article as it stands says that the standard refresh rate is 60 HZ while the backlit SP is 50 HZ. The IGN SP2 article confirms that the rate is lower, but can someone find out the exact numbers? - Hbdragon88 03:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

That is flat out wrong. IGN must have confused refresh rate and response time. Notice that all they say is the screen is "blurrier". The GBA, much like the older era of home consoles, is tightly timed together. The CPU runs at 16.78 mhz, and all other timing signals are based off of that one, including the video and sound hardware. Other than clocking everything down to ~14mhz, which would yield 50 field/s video, lower pitched audio, and slow all gameplay by 17% (which it is very easy to verify the GBASP does not do), there would be absolutely no way to change the LCD timing without breaking every single game on the market. I've corrected the article. 132.162.213.109 20:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I personally agree with this assessment. That IGN article was the first place I saw comments made regarding the backlit SP's "refresh rate": there's certainly no source for the claim.[5] That said we could do with something conclusive. Emailing Nintendo, perhaps? Sockatume 00:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Game Crazy only?

In this article it states that the 20th anniversary version is only available at Game Crazy stores in the US. This is flat out wrong. The Game Boy website clearly states that it is available at several stores, but Game Crazy is not even under the list. [6] is the Game Boy website. (It is a site made with Macromedia Flash, unable to directly link. Click the 20th anniversary model, and then Where to Buy.) Senor 23:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Rereading it I assume that the sentence is mentioning the price drop, and referring to the fact that the price drop has only happened to the 20th anniversary edition at Game Crazy. But then why doesn't the official Game Boy site say that it is available at Game Crazy? Senor 23:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Requested move 2

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Game Boy micro → Game Boy Micro – Per WP:MOS-TM, "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment." The lowercased "micro" is special treatment and should be ignored. — Hbdragon88 21:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC) copied from the entry on the WP:RM page

Oops, I've seen heaps of pages that ignore that rule, especially Apple products! Will get on the job of changing them JayKeaton 14:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Support as the nominator - Hbdragon88 21:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Support --Squilibob 05:26, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 19:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 18:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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Smallest console ever?

"The shell itself is also much smaller and thinner than the Game Boy Advance SP, making it the most portable modern handheld so far." I know this is a bit nitpicky, but the Pokémon Mini was smaller. Should this be mentioned? CrossEyed7 02:09, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the unreferenced claim in the article that Nintendo said the GBM is the smallest console ever. Nintendo has only stated that it is the "smallest Game Boy system ever". --Poiuyt Man ^talk 04:38, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair to say it is the smallest "real" (as in you put games in it, hence the definition of "console") console ever JayKeaton 14:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

The Pokémon Mini uses carts. It's the smallest 'real' console. --Thaddius 16:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

"Reactions" Removal

I made a pretty drastic move - deleting most of the "Reactions" section and moving the salvagable portions to a new section titled "Compatibility Issues". That part of the section made sense, as the changes in hardware and accessories are irrefutable fact. The rest was just an unsourced mess of random annoyances some people have had with the system. I'm sure most of it was valid, but unless the problems were widespread and important enough to be documented by a major publication, you've got no sources to base those endless paragraphs on. If they have been documented, feel free to reinstate them and cite the source. Prefacing claims with statements such as "Some people have felt..." is not encyclopedic at all, especially when unsourced. --relaxathon 06:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

*kicks bucket* I knew this was going to happen...very very hard to find sourced statements for common sentiments. Fortunately for me, most of the criticism that I wrote remained intact, while the praise section was pretty much gone. But...finding statements is very hard. I for one am searching for a sourced statement on criticism of the save system in SMA4...I'll find it soon.... Hbdragon88 04:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree with your changes. Criticisms is an important part of any consumer product, and is important part of this article. I'm restoring your changes. Malamockq 14:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Please source as many of the critics as you can. There are only two references in both sections, more should be needed. -- ReyBrujo 17:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I will be removing all non-sourced reactions in two weeks. Please fill them out. I have also added a bunch of {{fact}} tags to the article. If the section is not improved I will be adding a {{npov}} tag to it, seeing as words like "many gamers", "many critics" etc. are pov statements as they do not have sources attached to them. Havok (T/C/c) 08:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

GBMicro Pic

I have a pic of my own micro that looks a lot brighter than the one on the main page. If no one objects I'd like to put it on the main page instead of that dark one that's there. --Thaddius 17:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Dead before it's time?

The Micro looks good, with a million sales worldwide, but I looked in this month's issue of EGM and found it got the lowest score possible. Why did it sell when it got a low score and almost no good games? --D-hyo 16:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "no good games". The Micro is a redesign, not an entirely new system, and the GBA's game library is certainly nothing to be overlooked. Furthermore (and I realize that this is a matter of personal preference), I love the way the Micro looks and feels. It has a nice fit, a very sharp screen, and is by far the most easily portable system to date.68.12.100.206 23:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Picture

That picture is horrible. Its like on your carpet. Very unencyclopedic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.203.58.233 (talk • contribs) .

Game Boy Micro

It's a wool blanket. You think it's worse than the other one? It's too dark in the original one. I don't understand how a pic of an object on a wool blanket is 'unencyclopedic'. I hope you're not just being silly. --Thaddius 17:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Be civil. TJ Spyke 22:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I hope that's not directed at me. I am merely asking if the person is just arguing for the sake of arguing (how is it being on a wool blanket 'unencyclopedic'?) or if (s)he is serious. By all means, if the image is unencycloedic, post the rule here that says wool is unencyclopedic and change the picture on the main page. --Thaddius 14:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

how bout this one Image:GBA_micro.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scotty.n (talk • contribs) 07:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC) Dancter 07:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks like it's probably a promotional image by Nintendo, in which case it would be copyrighted, and not usable over the images already presented according to fair use criteria. If you can indicate on the image page an original source (a Google image search doesn't count) and appropriate copyright tag, perhaps its possible use could be evaluated. Dancter 07:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The two pics on the right here are both fair use. Just pick one and leave it at that. --Thaddius 23:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus to move. — Mets501  (talk)  18:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Requested move 3

Game Boy Micro → Game Boy micro – Correct name of the system, iPod Nano was moved to iPod nano for the same reason. TJ Spyke 22:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Oppose per WP:MOS-TM: Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration. The lowercsae "m" is uprely decorative and is not pronounced. Hbdragon88 22:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment "M" and "m" are pronounced identically as far as I've ever heard ;-) I would argue that the lowercase "n" in "iPod nano" is purely decorative as well, enforcing to the word's meaning by giving it a compact shape, and yet that article was moved. StealthFox 04:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support It seems to be the official name used on the Game Boy micro package and on the Game Boy micro itself, and iPod nano was moved for this same reason. Edgecution 21:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose: This search search shows all "Game Boy Micro" while this edit shows mostly "iPod nano". The comparison doesn't seem to fit well. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)It is 2:00$

Discussion

Add any additional comments

This is rather funny. Even Nintendo doesn't consistently spell it one way - its website calls it "micro" [7], but a news release refers to it as "Micro" [8]. IGN refers to it as Micro [9], as does GameSpot [10]. Hbdragon88 22:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm following the precedence set by iPod nano. Game Boy micro is the official spelling of it and how it appears it all print material from Nintendo. Why should iPod nano(and others like the iPod shuffle) get to do it but not Game Boy micro? Also, the special character thing refers to stuff like a heart symbol(like the move I Heart Huckabees), "m" is not a special character.TJ Spyke 01:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Did you see Nintendo's press release? Even they aren't consistent in their spelling (contradicting the claim that it apperas in "all print material from Nintendo.") We always try to be consistent, but we never succeed - why else would Adaptation. and Clerks be titled differently if both films have a full stop at the end? Hbdragon88 03:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• Relisting to gain better ocnsensus. --Dijxtra 11:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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Successor?

In the infobox it says that the Gameboy mirco is a successor to the Game Boy Advance SP, yet didn't Reggie Fils-Aime at the 2005 E3 state that its not a successor rather just a new design...Coasttocoast 02:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the info box says that as a limitation of the template (easily fixed I suppose). I think it may not relaly be referring to the fact that the Micro replaced the SP, but rather that it was released after the SP. --Thaddius 02:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Praise and Criticisms

I've removed the unsourced claims as they've been there too long without sources. If you want to add any claims you must have a srouce otherwise they will be deleted. --Thaddius 16:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Backlighting?

"The Game Boy Micro's backlit screen, which is superior to the Game Boy Advance SP's, has been praised for its visibility [13] . Due to a finer dot pitch, the screen is more evenly lit, and the brightness is adjustable. The smaller dot pitch has also improved the apparent sharpness of the display. However, the backlit Game Boy Advance SP and Nintendo DS Lite both sport much brighter backlit screens."

Fix?

I think it's saying that the GB micro screen is better than the GBA SP, but worse than the new, backlit GBA SP. Sockatume 17:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

not worst, just not as goodHHS.student 20:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

800 Yen?

That would be about 6 US-Dollar. Doesn't sound right to me. On Amazon Japan it is sold for about 11.000 Yen, so a street price of 8.000 Yen could be reasonable. --84.59.28.208 11:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Capitalization

Looking at the GBM logo, I would think it's Game Boy micro instead of Game Boy Micro. However, Nintendo says Game Boy Micro on the website. Well, I think it was the same thing with the Pokémon Mini.--Luigi 05:46, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Logos are usually never good sources for how to properly format the name of something in regular text. Most logo's are in capital letters (like Wikipedia for instance). Game Boy Micro is probably purposefully lowercase in the logo for the obvious relation with the word. K1Bond007 05:53, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

It's capitalized as "Game Boy micro," and not "Game Boy Micro," on the back of the micro's box, in the manual, and on Nintendo.com. Google's search results, which say "Micro," are therefore incorrect. Phaded 04:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

See the discussions below, #Moving/Renaming article to "Game Boy micro", #Requested move, #Requested move 2, #Requested move 3, and #Game Boy micro. Dancter 05:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

And please don't replace all instances of the "Micro" with "micro". Various sources do use the capitalized version, and several interwiki links break under the changed spelling. Dancter 05:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Official sources aren't good enough? That's a new one for me. Whatever. Phaded 16:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not the factuality that's in dispute, but style considerations. The official trademarked formatting is already indicated once in the article lead. Read the other discussions. Dancter 16:11, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Game Boy micro

It should go back to Game Boy micro as that is the name of it on the sytem itself. Just to answer an above question, the reasion that it is Game Boy micro and not Game Boy Micro is that the lower case m is to represent it's size.HHS.student 20:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you didn't notice that the requested move above ended in a decision not to move it. If you actually feel like starting another move request, by all means, but I can't see it turning out any different. --Thaddius 18:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I for one support the move to "micro." I read the discussion about the move debate and what it looks like to me is whoever opposes the move is doing so on the basis of some arcane Wikipedia rule. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, and as such it should represent and document the facts. The fact here is that "micro" is the true spelling of the product, and calling it anything else is just playing by your own silly rules. Somebody start another motion to move, I don't know how to do it. --CBecker 16:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

You can learn. As for your dismissal of certain the trademarks guideline being "arcane", it and the other style guidelines were developed with active discussions to build a consensus. If you wish to challenge that consensus, you are free to do so, but it is not less valid just because you've never encountered it before. In addition, the current location is also supported by the common use naming convention. The PlayStation 3 is actually PLAYSTATION 3[11] (though it seems there are some who consider the ® to be part of the name, making it PLAYSTATION®3), but per a general consensus which has been re-affirmed several times over, that styling is restricted to a single mention. Usability is also an important consideration for the encyclopedia. Dancter 20:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Someday when I really have nothing better to do than sit on Wikipedia and argue with a bunch of people over the internet about capital letters for two or three weeks, I just might take you up on that offer. But for right now, changing an entire manual of style so that Game Boy Micro can be called Game Boy micro is just not worth the effort to me. Regarding your examples, neither an ® symbol nor all-caps are issues here. The issue is "Lowercased trademarks with no internal capitals should always be capitalized." The reasoning for this rule is also clearly stated: "Trademarks which officially begin with a lowercase letter raise several problems because they break the normal capitalization rules of English that trademarks, as proper nouns, are written with initial capital letters, both in the middle of a sentence, like other proper nouns, but also at the beginning of a sentence, like any word." Well, I see two reasons why this rule no longer applies to Game Boy micro. One, the "micro" part will never come at the beginning of a sentence (but if it ever did, I would capitalize it). Two, the "micro" part is not the "official beginning" of the trademark, "Game" is, and "Game" is capitalized as per the rule. If "micro" was ever the beginning of a trademark, then I would support the capitalization of the first letter in order for there to be a clear understanding that the word being used is a proper noun. But when "micro" is always preceded by "Game Boy," proper noun confusion is not an issue. Comparing this to one of those "internal capital" trademarks, I don't see much of a difference. A trademark like eBay is allowed to be written that way because at least one letter in the first (and only) word of the trademark seems to indicate use of a proper noun. Well, the same is true for the trademark "Game Boy micro." So let me just say I'd agree with you under normal circumstances, but since "micro" is not the trademark, "Game Boy micro" is, and I think that's what you're failing to see here, the rule you cited doesn't even apply. Let me know what you think. --CBecker 03:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I apologize if I came off as condescending. I fixed the link to the common names guideline, which is the actual guideline I was trying to point out. Your argument is for moving the article to a location that accurately represents the product name, which is why I brought up the PLAYSTATION issue. That was merely an example in which usability overrides accuracy, and in which common usage and tradition provides an exception to both. Additionally, given what happened to the NINTENDO GAMECUBE[12] styling and the old Game Boy Advance "AGB" abbreviation mandate, it can be seen that companies don't always get to dictate what happens to their own names. iPod nano seems to be a prominent-enough usage that it seems to have been determined to take precedence. I don't think that the "Game Boy micro" styling meets the same bar. Just from a quick web search, I'm seeing mostly "Game Boy Micro", with significantly fewer instances of "Game Boy micro" and "GAME BOY micro" (which most closely matches the logo, if one wants to look at it that way). Nintendo news releases frequently use the "Game Boy Micro" styling. It seems that is how it is written by most. I realize that I've largely repeated points made in that original discussion, but they still apply. Dancter 05:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey don't worry no hard feelings here, I didn't mean to come off that way either. The thing is, if it needs to stay "Micro" afterall, we should use this as a discussion for future reference as to why it needs to stay that way. And either way I say it definitely needs at least one mention of the product name for the sake of not misrepresenting the facts. Then if "Game Boy micro" still seems too confusing, subsequent uses in the article, and the title, could be written as "Game Boy Micro" for grammatical reasons. But I still think "Game Boy micro" could be considered a trademark with internal capitals. --CBecker 10:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Throwing my vote in here for "Game Boy micro." If "iPod nano" exists, then "Game Boy micro" should be capitalized properly. The packaging, manual, and Nintendo's website all say "Game Boy micro," and I see no reason why "Micro" is being used, style guidelines or no style guidelines. Phaded 16:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Sega Nomad

It resembles a Sega Nomad. 67.188.172.165 05:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

This is hardly noteworthy, but I'm wondering: How so? --Thaddius 17:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Large "A" and "B" buttons?

This is something I have seriously doubted since the creation of one particular phrase on the article:

The Game Boy Micro's "A" and "B" buttons are also much larger than any previous model, making them easier to use.

Now, if anyone owns a Game Boy micro and Game Boy Advance or SP, please pull them out and examine the "A" and "B" buttons. If anything, the micro's buttons are a bit smaller. The PC Magazine source (the only one used in the entire section) makes no mention of the buttons being larger.--the ninth bright shiner ^talk 21:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I have both and it would seem the Micro's buttons are bigger, but it is a very slight difference. Knowitall 06:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

"Large" doesn't necessarily mean diameter anyways. The buttons are taller as well. Theredcomet2000 17:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I really don't think that the height of the buttons has an standing on making them easier to use. Maybe if the quote is referring to the buttons' size in proportion to the rest of the system, yes, they certainly are larger; but that still doesn't make them easier to use. I'm just going to remove the quote; it doesn't really make much sense.--Orannis 22:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sales chart

The table seems to be a bit messed up, there seems to be a drop in total number of untis sold between '06 and '07: 0.96/0.95 million in Americas Yitzy 10:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Automatic addition of "class=GA"

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"$29.99 in the US"

Where is the source on this? I have only ever seen a micro available new from a US online store for upwards of $110

I think this is inaccurate in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.105.205 (talk) 05:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Citation for the "hack" that re-enables use of the GameCube-Game Boy Advance cable

Would this forum thread be appropriate citation? Arctic flame (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Threads in forums cannot be used, unfortunately. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 01:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

How long has the 'successor' mistake been back in there?

The Game Boy Micro came before the Nintendo DS, so how can the DS be its successor? By definition, if the DS came out before the Micro how can the DS be its successor? I'll remove it for now. I'm hoping people will explain here before reverting me. 209.90.134.118 (talk) 03:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, as an additional note, even in addition to the basic chronology, there's another reason the DS can't be a successor to the Micro. Because I'm pretty sure that, when the micro came out, at least some media coverage of it said that the screen had been improved to follow the style of the DS's. 209.90.134.118 (talk) 03:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

You are correct that the DS is not the Game Boy Micro's successor. It was added back into the infobox in this May 2, 2008 edit. The first two sentences at Nintendo DS#Development and launch explains why the DS is not the Micro's successor. --Silver Edge (talk) 03:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, well, I guess it was an honest mistake then, eh? :) Unfortunately, I imagine it might happen again. Do you happen to know if it's possible to include some sort of a (html-commented) note in the template so people know not to put it back in, that won't interfere with the template itself? 209.90.134.118 (talk) 04:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh! You already did! Good work! 209.90.134.118 (talk) 04:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it a mistake. Systems like the SMSII, NES 2, SNES II, and the PSOne were all released very close to the next system in line. Even if the DS was initially stated as not being a successor, the GBA and the GC have been retired, so the DS is by definition a successor as it survived the two. This point is irrelevant, but it makes sense why people would want to call the DS a successor. --Thaddius (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Delisted from GA

I am boldly delisting this article from GA status for the following reasons:

• Lack of verifiability. About 90% of all the sources are primary sources. Important figures like sales data and reception of the console require reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic.
• Entire sections (i.e. the specifications, which I also argue is too detailed and may not be encyclopedic but will keep in there for right now) are unreferenced (fails criterion 1).
• Some sections are written in a bulleted list rather than in prose. Those sections that are written in prose are written very choppily (i.e. the Packaging and Reception sections)
• Article does not seem to be written in a neutral tone. For instance, the entire Praise subsection seems to include original research, as the sources cited do not mention nor verify that the Game Boy Micro's backlit screen is superior to the Game Boy Advance SP nor the sharpness of the display. Also the criticism of the device is also not verifiable and hence also seems to suggest original research.

I am assessing this article as C-Class, low-importance under WP:VG. Anyone wishing to bring the article back to GA status should improve the article to ensure it meets the Good Article criteria and re-nominate the article for GA. MuZemike 18:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Sixth Generation or Seventh Generation?

• We all know that the original Game Boy Advance was a sixth generation hand held console, well as the Game Boy Advance SP, but what about the Game Boy Micro? The Game Boy Micro was released after the original Nintendo DS in 2004, released at the same time as the Sony PlayStation Portable and a few months before the Xbox 360! The Nintendo DS started off the Seventh Generation of video games, and the Game Bot Micro was released well into a year of the new generation. So can somebody tell me what generation this handheld fits into? --Spock2266 (talk) 07:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I think your right, it doesn't make sense tht the GBM is a 6th Generation console. I think we should change the 6th generation to 7th generation.DellTG5 (talk) 15:08, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I added the issue of a bad commercial for the Gameboy Micro

I typed this:

"===Not so kid friendly commercial=== Around the time of the Micro's release, a certain commercial aired that involved Scientists experimenting with a Mouse and a Maze, only instead of cheese, the Mouse is supposed to find the Gameboy Micro. But, when the Mouse found the Gameboy Micro, it started humping on the Micro. This commercial was aired on children channels such as the YTV (Canadian television) Network!"

I saw this commercial on YTV, and I was like "WTF?!?!? This is a kids channel, and this is showing sex!!!"

So if anyone else has seen this commercial, can they retype it a more articulate way please? 11:52PM, 20 May 2006

You know I think you are seriously messed up man. It was playing a game on the micro, clearly.--Ac1983fan (talk • contribs) 23:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

nope, the original guy is right. He is not playing the game, it's not even switched on. One scientest puts his clipperboard ontop of the maze after a few seconds so we can't see what's happening.--213.83.125.225 (talk) 08:57, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

discontinued

Has production of the Game Boy Micro stopped? This will be most helpful in the article.--213.83.125.225 (talk) 08:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think it's been produced for a few years now (4 or 5). Don't know about finding a source on that though. -Thaddius (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

micro's successor?

Allo.
I removed the bit in the infobox about the DS being the micro's 'successor'. Since the micro came out after the DS, that'd be physically impossible.
Although, now that I think about it... since the second version of the SP incorporated essentially the same style of backlit screen as the Micro, and did come out after the micro... arguably, the 'mark ii' SP could be listed as a successor.
(wouldn't that look funny? It's predecessor and successor being SPs?) Bladestorm 15:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the Nintendo DS Lite, since it came out after, is worthy of being marked as the successor. I am going to put it back to the way I did it. Knowitall 18:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

By that logic, the Pokémon mini is the successor to the original Game Boy Advance. By "succession", it is implied that there is something like a direct line of descendance between the Game Boy line and the DS. Nintendo's "third pillar" rhetoric conflicts with this sort of reasoning. Dancter 19:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Obviously, dancter is right on this. There's the game boy line, and there's the DS (and lite). Separate things altogether. (especially unless you want to list the Nintendo DS as the predecessor of the Micro, and the DS Lite as the successor) The only two realistic options here are Game Boy Advance SP mark ii (talk about a mouthful), or no successor at all. I'd opt for the latter. It is the terminus of the line. Bladestorm 23:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a bit wrong. Nintendo DS and Game Boy Advance/SP in the 'prceeder' and DS Lite should be addedin the 'sucseesor'. Sorry for spelling mistakes.--213.83.125.225 (talk) 09:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Source? DS line succeeded GBA line, singling-out iterations seems like original research. « ₣M₣ » 19:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Release Dates

I've added the information give to use by Nintendo of Spain stating the the Game Boy Micro will be realeased in November and that they will sell with it some Play-Yans for the GBA.

Why the edit?

I would just like to ask why the whole page has been edited in such a way. It seems very America centrilised with no mention of other release dates in different countries. It was fine as it was.

Reason for commercial failure

This article does mention the Nintendo DS 'might have' hurt the sales, but fails to acknowledge the elephant in the room, namely why Nintendo would throw its own handheld under the bus in the first place. For 3 decades the GameBoy reigned king even as competitors tried their best to challenge it. Because of GameBoys popularity in the face of much more technologically superior products GameBoy never had to get any better. Making only minor improvements, the GameBoy Micro was little more than a cosmetic change from the GBA SP, which was only a minor improvement from the GBA, and so on. When the PSP came out it was a revolution in handheld technology, possessing the capability of playing movies, accessing wireless internet, and playing portable games that were as good or better than PS1 console games. Compared to the PSP, the old lumbering dinosaur GameBoy Micro looked more like a lump of coal. For the first time a real challenge appeared and Nintendo was forced to abandon its 1980s technology. Thus the DS was introduced to directly compete with the PSP. Nintendo had to make the move to keep from going the way of Sega, and introduced their first truly new handheld technology since the VirtuaBoy. I think this article is remiss for leaving this fact out. The GameBoy Micro was an evolutionary dead end and failed entirely because of the PSP. Promontoriumispromontorium (talk) 21:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Except that the DS was as underpowered by comparison with the PSP as was the Game Boy line in front of its competitors. Yet it was even more successful than the original Game Boy. That tells you that the DS didn't happen because Nintendo felt threatened by the PSP, but because they wanted to try something new (the touch screen) and they knew that their customers were a bunch of lemmings who would buy any handheld produced by them, no matter how aged and underpowered its technology is (thus they didn't feel it necessary to give the DS decent specs, unfortunately). - 190.231.23.185 (talk) 23:31, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 4

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. Although I participated in this discussion, the result is clear, and in the spirit of WP:IAR, I'm trying to shrink the backlog. Please contact me with concerns. --BDD (talk) 16:09, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Game Boy Micro → Game Boy micro – The correct name, which is almost always used, specifically on the product itself; this is more than mere decoration (logos). There are a few exceptions (a news article and a company Q&A), but they are indeed exceptions. On the MOS-TM, I believe it in error on this front, and that it would greatly improve Wikipedia to retain the advertised name as much as possible. On RS, the official websites and the products have better standing than any third-party source, unless those official sources can be shown to be incorrect; a company has no reason to lie about the name of their own product, and this is also why those two Nintendo articles are exceptions. Despatche (talk) 11:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose per MOS:TM. The lowercase isn't a "lie"; it's just a stylization. --BDD (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose – like our style articulated in MOS:TM, most sources capitalize the Micro in Game Boy Micro. It's not a different name. It's not an error for the manufacturer to style their trademark as they like, not an error for WP and others to capitalize it. Please do read MOS:TM about that. Dicklyon (talk) 03:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose, this is similar to the situation at iPad Mini, where the lowercase "mini" is simply a stylistic choice. The "mini" here should remain capitalized. WikiRedactor (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose. WP:TITLETM and MOS:TM suggest using the proper capitalization unless there are extenuating circumstances. Additionally, the WP:VG/RS search reveals all reliable sources as using title case. czar · · 01:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose. Per WP:MOS. Sir Lothar (talk) 09:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Commercial failure

Why is Wii U and its 14 million under the "Commercial failure", and the approximate 1 million Game Boy Micro's not in the same page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CFD3:2EE0:2915:E8BF:7084:D453 (talk) 22:10, 19 May 2017 (UTC)